TEA Party Steps Things Up

[mrjarrell]

The new kids on the block are taking the fight to the entrenched gop machine minders that are currently running things. Some notables in the movement have pretty much laid out the way they'd like to see things go from now on. They want the tired, old SoCons to step aside and move things in the direction of fiscal responsibility, smaller, less intrusive government and get away from the social conservatism that's dominated their agenda for so long, (and caused them more than a few defeats along the way).
This is the wave that someone like Daniels could ride, if he chose to run for office. People in the middle and towards the left have more in common with these people than they do the hard right social conservatives who want to poke their noses into peoples private affairs.
The new kids, who are embracing this philosophy are setting the stage for a different kind of gop. One that more people are in line with. Good on them for staying focused and asserting their agenda!

Classical Values : Old Party vs Tea Party

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM153_tea.html

 

[Randall Flagg]

When did we become convinced that the vote was mightier then the sword? Look what voting got us these last 50 years, anyone voted into office will fall in line or die in a plane crash, power does not give itself up to the ignorant masses via voting.

 

[lashicoN]

When did we become convinced that the vote was mightier then the sword? Look what voting got us these last 50 years, anyone voted into office will fall in line or die in a plane crash, power does not give itself up to the ignorant masses via voting.

I have to agree. Has it ever happened, throughout history? Has any government ever given up power simply because "the people say so"?

We didn't vote the red coats out, that's all I'm saying. And they didn't have anywhere near the intrusive power and authority that our state and federal governments have over us now.

 

[Hotdoger]

The new kids on the block are taking the fight to the entrenched gop machine minders that are currently running things. Some notables in the movement have pretty much laid out the way they'd like to see things go from now on. They want the tired, old SoCons to step aside and move things in the direction of fiscal responsibility, smaller, less intrusive government and get away from the social conservatism that's dominated their agenda for so long, (and caused them more than a few defeats along the way).
This is the wave that someone like Daniels could ride, if he chose to run for office. People in the middle and towards the left have more in common with these people than they do the hard right social conservatives who want to poke their noses into peoples private affairs.
The new kids, who are embracing this philosophy are setting the stage for a different kind of gop. One that more people are in line with. Good on them for staying focused and asserting their agenda!

Classical Values : Old Party vs Tea Party

http://www.politico.com/static/PPM153_tea.html

Eactly what new rep or senator is not a social conservative?


I guess you could argue Kirk from Il. to prove maybe one out of 100.

 

[mrjarrell]

The TEA Party candidates weren't elected to be social conservative supporters. They were elected to stay focused on making government smaller, downsizing, cutting spending and lowering taxes. Nothing more. Nothing less. Certainly not to go up there and engage in the same tired old crap the socons have been trying to impose on people for years, (an agenda that more and more people want nothing to do with). If they can't stay focused the TEA Party will turn on them and toss them out to rot. They have a choice to make, as the article and letter make clear.

 

[Hotdoger]

The TEA Party candidates weren't elected to be social conservative supporters. They were elected to stay focused on making government smaller, downsizing, cutting spending and lowering taxes. Nothing more. Nothing less. Certainly not to go up there and engage in the same tired old crap the socons have been trying to impose on people for years, (an agenda that more and more people want nothing to do with). If they can't stay focused the TEA Party will turn on them and toss them out to rot. They have a choice to make, as the article and letter make clear.

Read the first signee on the letter and get a clue.
The leftists at Politico and the homos have scamed you.

 

[Hotdoger]

The TEA Party candidates weren't elected to be social conservative supporters. They were elected to stay focused on making government smaller, downsizing, cutting spending and lowering taxes. Nothing more. Nothing less. Certainly not to go up there and engage in the same tired old crap the socons have been trying to impose on people for years, (an agenda that more and more people want nothing to do with). If they can't stay focused the TEA Party will turn on them and toss them out to rot. They have a choice to make, as the article and letter make clear.

Libertarian wet dream musing. ALMOST ALL RAN AS SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES.

 

[mrjarrell]

Libertarian wet dream musing. ALMOST ALL RAN AS SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES.

Not according to TEA Partiers.

 

[Randall Flagg]

The TEA Party candidates weren't elected to be social conservative supporters. They were elected to stay focused on making government smaller, downsizing, cutting spending and lowering taxes.

And they won enough seats to do.............absolutely none of those things.

Btw all these tax cuts are a wet dream, look for taxes to go up not down. You can not have a smaller deficit and lower taxes with the way our local,state, and federal gov spends money. If the fed lowers taxes, look for states and local to raise them.

 

[Hotdoger]

Not according to
homosexual teabaggers
.

Fixed it for the naive.

 

[mrjarrell]

You didn't fix anything. You just made the truth into a lie. Typical.

 

[mrjarrell]

And they won enough seats to do.............absolutely none of those things.

Btw all these tax cuts are a wet dream, look for taxes to go up not down. You can not have a smaller deficit and lower taxes with the way our local,state, and federal gov spends money. If the fed lowers taxes, look for states and local to raise them.

They've got enough numbers to form a caucus and press their agenda. The entrenched good old boys (who led to the gop to powerlessness) are going to find, I think, that they've got a group who aren't just going to go along to get along. We'll just have to wait and see, tho. Taxes can be lowered at the federal level, as long as you cut spending and downsize accordingly. We can only hope that they decide to take the route of responsible lowering and cutting.

 

[Hotdoger]

You didn't fix anything. You just made the truth into a lie. Typical.

The truth is you and others were suckered in to approval of the GOPROUDs letter.
The GOPPROUD homsexuals want to continue with their leftist agenda and that was the cause for the letter. They don't want aids, LBGT and Planned Parenthood funding cut. Thus their cry of stay away from the social issues. They are prepping the battlefield.
And plenty of simple minded tea partiers and libertarians fell for it.

 

[rambone]

The truth is you and others were suckered in to approval of the GOPROUDs letter.
The GOPPROUD homsexuals want to continue with their leftist agenda and that was the cause for the letter. They don't want aids, LBGT and Planned Parenthood funding cut. Thus their cry of stay away from the social issues. They are prepping the battlefield.
And plenty of simple minded tea partiers and libertarians fell for it.

Where do you stand? I honestly can't tell which group you are hating on the most.

 

[Randall Flagg]

They've got enough numbers to form a caucus and press their agenda. The entrenched good old boys (who led to the gop to powerlessness) are going to find, I think, that they've got a group who aren't just going to go along to get along. We'll just have to wait and see, tho. Taxes can be lowered at the federal level, as long as you cut spending and downsize accordingly. We can only hope that they decide to take the route of responsible lowering and cutting.

Man your not getting the economic mess we are in are you? What spending are they going to cut?

You do realize that if interest rates go up to the high teens like they did in the late 70's,early 80's that you could cut the federal government down to one guy(making min wage even) and the deficit is still going to grow right?(along with riots from s.s. peeps/vets due to no va benefits/the golden welfare horde because they are hungry/etc)

But i'm really interested in hearing these cost cutting measures, the dod budget, s.s., medicare/caid was 1.8 trillion dollars last year...


2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Total take for .gov was 2.381 trillion

Total MANDOTRY spending was 2.184 trillion

Personal AND corp taxes will be down this year, and you want to lower more taxes?

What mandatory spending do you think they will cut?

 

[Hotdoger]

Where do you stand? I honestly can't tell which group you are hating on the most.

So I lay out what happened with the letter on Politico and somehow you trun it into me being a "hater"?

Have you tried jumping the Gand Canyon? I think you would be sucessful.

 

[mrjarrell]

Man your not getting the economic mess we are in are you? What spending are they going to cut?

You do realize that if interest rates go up to the high teens like they did in the late 70's,early 80's that you could cut the federal government down to one guy(making min wage even) and the deficit is still going to grow right?(along with riots from s.s. peeps/vets due to no va benefits/the golden welfare horde because they are hungry/etc)

But i'm really interested in hearing these cost cutting measures, the dod budget, s.s., medicare/caid was 1.8 trillion dollars last year...


2010 United States federal budget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Total take for .gov was 2.381 trillion

Total MANDOTRY spending was 2.184 trillion

Personal AND corp taxes will be down this year, and you want to lower more taxes?

What mandatory spending do you think they will cut?

I'm more than aware of the economic disaster that's looming over us, Randall. I've posted on it more than a few times. That doesn't mean that the downsizing and cutting doesn't need to begin somewhere. It does. If they don't start cutting then we're going to be even worse off. I'll take what we can get, if it gets the ball rolling, but we can't just roll up in a ball and start whimpering 'cause we're looking at disaster. Someone's got to start applying bandages to the thousands of cuts we're dealing with. That's what these TEA Partiers have said their going to do, and we can only hope that they can get that ball going and avoid all the socon nonsense that will delay softening the coming hurt.

 

[BigMatt]

We are going to see this year where things are going in this country. So far, the Repubs have agreed to a moritorium on earmarks (not a ban). This is a good gesture, but I don't think it is good enough.

The TEA Party conservatives in Congress now have the power to stop just about any legislation that is being voted on. They have the power but will they stand n their principles or will they cave - that is the question. If you can get 15-20 Congressional conservatives together in a caucus in the House, you can block most any legislation that is against the principles of that caucus.

Michelle Bachmann is going to lead a Constitutional Conservative Caucus that will be able to take power and put a wrench in the works of any bill they don't like. I have heard her speak about this and she is on top of things:

School Soon in Session for Rep. Michele Bachmann's Constitutional Caucus

This time next year, we will really be able to look back and tell if the TEA Party conservatives can really make a difference.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Guys i hate to tell you this, but congress does not vote on if the fed prints more money or not.

 

[rambone]

Hotdoger, you are all over the place. You talk about simple-minded libertarians & tea partiers, homosexual GOPROUD, LGBT, leftists, more homos, homosexual teabaggers....

Now you tell me to jump off the Grand Canyon.

Is this all a tantrum because somebody said something bad about the social conservative agenda?