The 2020 General Election Thread II

[foszoe]

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-h...ies-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

Apparently its not just a few INGO folks that don't get it.

 

[Ingomike]

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-h...ies-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

Apparently its not just a few INGO folks that don't get it.

What They don't tell you is that some of those folks, Cipollone, apparently was part of a small group that kept 50,000 documents for the President from him, causing a big discussion led by General Flynn.

With friends like these who needs enemies?

 

[jamil]

Not being a person of nuance, they are all the same to me. Government is Republicans and Democrats and vice-versa

Nah. We're talking about what he meant. Not what you meant. Or what Kut meant. This wasn't a cry against the man. It was distrust of establishment types. Maybe I'm wrong. That's how I read it.

 

[jamil]

https://www.axios.com/trump-white-h...ies-d95450a4-c7a3-4579-a568-0473b18529c9.html

Apparently its not just a few INGO folks that don't get it.

Trump is climbing into a bubble.

 

[bmbutch]

In all of this, have any of you “election was stolen” believers changed your mind that it was a fair and valid election?
Same question for those that believe it was fair & valid, did you change your mind belief that it was stolen?

I have not, I believe it was corrupt and stolen, and still do, I doubt any blathering will change that belief.

 

[Kutnupe14]

In all of this, have any of you “election was stolen” believers changed your mind that it was a fair and valid election?
Same question for those that believe it was fair & valid, did you change your mind belief that it was stolen?

I have not, I believe it was corrupt and stolen, and still do, I doubt any blathering will change that belief.

The better question, and I just thought about this, is have you thought about what might make you wrong. I can admit, that there are some concerning issues, and that I can’t be sure one way or the other. If everybody can admit that, then we have a starting point for a discussion; rather dismissing the other side out of hand.

 

[bwframe]

The only discussion to be had is when we will throw these flawed results out and have an actual free and fair election?

 

[jamil]

The only discussion to be had is when we will throw these flawed results out and have an actual free and fair election?

We we can determine the extent to which any fraud happened. At least some happened. Did it sway the result? You need proof of that before any discussion can be had about throwing the results out.

 

[Tombs]

Well, now Biden has made clear why he has the support of white supremacists. https://twitter.com/UndergroundSilk/status/1341515238743674883

"This country is doomed, not just because of African Americans, but because by 2040 it will be minority white"-Joe Biden

We we can determine the extent to which any fraud happened. At least some happened. Did it sway the result? You need proof of that before any discussion can be had about throwing the results out.

Unless you can profess with absolute certainty that fraud didn't affect the election, then in good faith, investigations must take course before the result can be accepted.

And I'd say anyone making the claim that they KNOW fraud didn't affect the outcome, is speaking in bad faith.

 

[Ingomike]

The better question, and I just thought about this, is have you thought about what might make you wrong. I can admit, that there are some concerning issues, and that I can’t be sure one way or the other. If everybody can admit that, then we have a starting point for a discussion; rather dismissing the other side out of hand.

For me the Genesis of the vote fraud in the election was when Trump was ahead by significant numbers in all the battleground states and in a quick minute they just stopped counting. An unprecedented action for a lifelong political observer. Then huge numbers were added to Biden in the wee hours and magically Biden overcame those significant leads in ALL the battleground states.

The unprecedented coordinated stoppage of counting alone is probable cause for a through investigation.

 

[Kutnupe14]

For me the Genesis of the vote fraud in the election was when Trump was ahead by significant numbers in all the battleground states and in a quick minute they just stopped counting. An unprecedented action for a lifelong political observer. Then huge numbers were added to Biden in the wee hours and magically Biden overcame those significant leads in ALL the battleground states.

The unprecedented coordinated stoppage of counting alone is probable cause for a through investigation.

Was there anything else "unprecedented," concerning this election, that weakens your argument?

 

[NKBJ]

Heh, the genesis of the 2020 vote fraud was the outpouring of support for Donald Trump that overwhelmed the insufficient measures that had been organized for 2016. They got caught out and we the people handed the international criminal cabal their bungs in a basket. This time the word came down from on high to make sure it didn't happen again and here we are.

 

[Ingomike]

Heh, the genesis of the 2020 vote fraud was the outpouring of support for Donald Trump that overwhelmed the insufficient measures that had been organized for 2016. They got caught out and we the people handed the international criminal cabal their bungs in a basket. This time the word came down from on high to make sure it didn't happen again and here we are.

While true, the 2020 election also had a Trump outpouring of support that again overwhelmed the fix that was in. That is why they stopped counting, they had to hastily perform plan B.

They never dreamt Trump would shatter Obama 08 numbers...

 

[Kutnupe14]

Heh, the genesis of the 2020 vote fraud was the outpouring of support for Donald Trump that overwhelmed the insufficient measures that had been organized for 2016. They got caught out and we the people handed the international criminal cabal their bungs in a basket. This time the word came down from on high to make sure it didn't happen again and here we are.

That is a theory, that many believe. It would be nice, though, if there were some evidence presented that indicate the successful conspiracy during this election year, and the failed attempt in 2016. The fact that we don't have sufficient evidence of either, makes some believe that these allegations have been cooked, because some folks can't accept that the candidate they hold in such high esteem had been defeated.

 

[NKBJ]

While true, the 2020 election also had a Trump outpouring of support that again overwhelmed the fix that was in. That is why they stopped counting, they had to hastily perform plan B.

They never dreamt Trump would shatter Obama 08 numbers...

Yep, the preps had much greater depth this time. As Biden bragged about.

 

[NKBJ]

That is a theory, that many believe. It would be nice, though, if there were some evidence presented that indicate the successful conspiracy during this election year, and the failed attempt in 2016. The fact that we don't have sufficient evidence of either, makes some believe that these allegations have been cooked, because some folks can't accept that the candidate they hold in such high esteem had been defeated.

Revolutionary truth.

 

[Ingomike]

That is a theory, that many believe. It would be nice, though, if there were some evidence presented that indicate the successful conspiracy during this election year, and the failed attempt in 2016. The fact that we don't have sufficient evidence of either, makes some believe that these allegations have been cooked, because some folks can't accept that the candidate they hold in such high esteem had been defeated.

Do you believe in analytics or are you an earth is flat kind of guy? Analytics alone provide ample probable cause for an investigation. A casino would be shut down based on the analytical analysis...

 

[NKBJ]

This is absurd.

 

[NKBJ]

Not what you're saying Mike but rather to continue the discussion.

 

[NKBJ]

But then again, absurdity has its own charm.