The 2020 General Election Thread II

[drillsgt]

From the Texas lawsuit.

Additional public information confirms the material adverse impact on the integrity of the vote in Wayne County caused by these unconstitutional changes to Michigan’s election law. For example, the Wayne County Statement of Votes Report lists 174,384 absentee ballots out of 566,694 absentee ballots tabulated (about 30.8%) as counted without a registration number for precincts in the City of Detroit.
See
Cicchetti Decl. at ¶ 27, App. 8a. The number of votes not tied to a registered voter by itself exceeds Vice President Biden’s margin of margin of [sic] 146,007 votes by more than 28,377 votes.

If you wrote biden in crayon on a piece of paper Detroit probably would've counted it.

 

[foszoe]

Glad to see an admission that all Democrats are not Biden voters. That's real progress. That means Democrats aren't a homogenous group. Let's see how that translates in future posts!

Yes.

 

[foszoe]

What if it was in purple?

If you wrote biden in crayon on a piece of paper Detroit probably would've counted it.

 

[BugI02]

Bug: I'm sure the Colonel has much more to say than just this short summary and the summary isn't worth responding to.

I still believe that Joe Biden will be installed as president on Jan 20 and there isn't any need to game scenarios of an apocalypse.

I fail to see why you seem to approve of the four year paroxysm of thrashing over the top angst that was your team's response to Trump being elected, only to see no need for similar room to move for my team

As you were so fond of reminding us, half the country didn't want Trump for their president. Why would you expect any different result when half the country doesn't want Biden for their president. This whole 'now we need to come together as Americans to support the agenda Alpo approves of' just Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Better get used to it now, although you can probably at least expect we won't be marching on DC in pecker hats and we're not the type to burn our own neighborhoods (or, in fact, any neighborhoods at all). But how does that go? "Just because we aren't violent doesn't mean we have forgotten how".

Watch for sabot in the machinery of socialism, though

 

[foszoe]

Speaking of teams....OSU get their special treatment from the ADs yet? Maybe that's why I don't like red Teams, Indiana, OSU, Wisconsin....

I fail to see why you seem to approve of the four year paroxysm of thrashing over the top angst that was your team's response to Trump being elected, only to see no need for similar room to move for my team

As you were so fond of reminding us, half the country didn't want Trump for their president. Why would you expect any different result when half the country doesn't want Biden for their president. This whole 'now we need to come together as Americans to support the agenda Alpo approves of' just Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Better get used to it now, although you can probably at least expect we won't be marching on DC in pecker hats and we're not the type to burn our own neighborhoods (or, in fact, any neighborhoods at all). But how does that go? "Just because we aren't violent doesn't mean we have forgotten how".

Watch for sabot in the machinery of socialism, though

 

[BugI02]

Buck: You are late to the party and not really contributing. More like kibbitzing. And, while that is your privilege, don't look for me to read or respond further.

I think Eminem has the copyright on that song

 

[Kutnupe14]

I fail to see why you seem to approve of the four year paroxysm of thrashing over the top angst that was your team's response to Trump being elected, only to see no need for similar room to move for my team

As you were so fond of reminding us, half the country didn't want Trump for their president. Why would you expect any different result when half the country doesn't want Biden for their president. This whole 'now we need to come together as Americans to support the agenda Alpo approves of' just Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Better get used to it now, although you can probably at least expect we won't be marching on DC in pecker hats and we're not the type to burn our own neighborhoods (or, in fact, any neighborhoods at all). But how does that go? "Just because we aren't violent doesn't mean we have forgotten how".

Watch for sabot in the machinery of socialism, though

I really don't anyone is saying "come together," other than politicians. It was the same when Trump was elected. All you gotta do is look to social media to see how much enjoyment people are getting out of Trump voter angst.

 

[drillsgt]

I fail to see why you seem to approve of the four year paroxysm of thrashing over the top angst that was your team's response to Trump being elected, only to see no need for similar room to move for my team

As you were so fond of reminding us, half the country didn't want Trump for their president. Why would you expect any different result when half the country doesn't want Biden for their president. This whole 'now we need to come together as Americans to support the agenda Alpo approves of' just Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Better get used to it now, although you can probably at least expect we won't be marching on DC in pecker hats and we're not the type to burn our own neighborhoods (or, in fact, any neighborhoods at all). But how does that go? "Just because we aren't violent doesn't mean we have forgotten how".

Watch for sabot in the machinery of socialism, though

I think there's room to come together provided he doesn't enact new gun controls, roll back tax breaks, increase regulation, increase corporate taxes, mess with the energy sector, pack the supreme court, push illegal alien amnesty, allow unfettered 'immigration' etc.

 

[buckwacker]

I think Eminem has the copyright on that song

Don't worry. He seems to have ignored his stated intentions regarding reading or responding to my posts in this thread. I view it more as a feeble attempt at a rethorical "take down".

 

[Alpo]

I fail to see why you seem to approve of the four year paroxysm of thrashing over the top angst that was your team's response to Trump being elected, only to see no need for similar room to move for my team

As you were so fond of reminding us, half the country didn't want Trump for their president. Why would you expect any different result when half the country doesn't want Biden for their president. This whole 'now we need to come together as Americans to support the agenda Alpo approves of' just Is. Not. Going. To. Happen.

Better get used to it now, although you can probably at least expect we won't be marching on DC in pecker hats and we're not the type to burn our own neighborhoods (or, in fact, any neighborhoods at all). But how does that go? "Just because we aren't violent doesn't mean we have forgotten how".

Watch for sabot in the machinery of socialism, though

I don't have a "team". I am an individual voter. If you read back to the beginning of the Trump administration, I remember saying he is our president and he ought to be given a chance. I supported his SCOTUS picks, I was surprised with his neo-Keynesian approach to the pandemic...which in some ways I thought too generous. I wasn't in favor of an impeachment. Perhaps sanctions, but not a full-blown impeachment process. Somehow, these things are forgotten. I don't mind. But my record on the subjects is pretty clear.

Trump wore me down with his significant character flaws and a concern that he was too "extra-legal" in some of his dealings. Personally, and that's the only way to view it since I'm not on a team, I can't stand the guy. I didn't like him when I knew him back around the time of the Challenger disaster and my opinion of him as a man is now worse.

Much the same could be said for the Republican party of today.

But, it's over. He can attempt to come back in 4 years, but I doubt that will happen. The generations are shifting and I expect the next president will be closer to 50 years of age than 80.

One other thing: The reason that this site IS an echo chamber is because so many of you cannot see that you are incorrect on any number of subjects. I've got enough scars that I don't mind the fights. There are a few people here that I enjoy reading and conversing with. The rest? The price of entry. If you're looking for someone to apologize for the Democrats, keep looking,

 

[Kutnupe14]

I think there's room to come together provided he doesn't enact new gun controls, roll back tax breaks, increase regulation, increase corporate taxes, mess with the energy sector, pack the supreme court, push illegal alien amnesty, allow unfettered 'immigration' etc.

Roll back Trump's tax plan, halt the wall, re-enter the Paris Accords, revive DACA, try and implement green energy plans; and I'll be happy with Biden. Damn near everything I want Biden to do (but not all), he can do with an EO. He'll be just as accomplished as Trump by simply "undoing" Trump things.

 

[BugI02]

Let's keep our nouns straight. The THING I'm summarizing is the extent to which it appears that there was some voter fraud evident, and it was more than just a little. It's just not quantifiable to the scale that would be needed to invalidate the election in those effected states, IMHO. I don't care how old you are. Or whatever the typical things were in the past. I'm not making this about Donald Trump or any of his family. Bringing them up in that way is completely beside the point. We're talking about THIS election, which is arguably the most contested in our history. So it's okay if things don't go according to Hoyle completely. We have a process for handling such things. The courts are doing their best to handle it. Things not going as according to Hoyle as you'd like is not a reason to believe nothing of a nefarious nature happened. In the sand is not a good place to rest your head. I'm just trying to keep mine where I can see the whole playing field.

I believe he is [STRIKE]scared[/STRIKE] concerned that valid legal questions might delay the [STRIKE]anointment[/STRIKE] inauguration of comrade Biden enough that delays might unexpectedly throw the election into the House, where his team has found it much more difficult to (fraudulently) take control of a majority of state legislatures (and has in fact still been losing ground), thus possibly leading to the martyrdom of Saint Robinette

 

[buckwacker]

Roll back Trump's tax plan, halt the wall, re-enter the Paris Accords, revive DACA, try and implement green energy plans; and I'll be happy with Biden. Damn near everything I want Biden to do (but not all), he can do with an EO. He'll be just as accomplished as Trump by simply "undoing" Trump things.

Oh dear God.

 

[BugI02]

Pfft. You're just filling the page with words. No proof, no crime. How's that for simple nouns?

Now do Russia! Russia! Russia!

 

[ziggy]

Trump is willing to go to the mat to fight for what he believes. Some see that as a character flaw. I do not see Trump's character as any more, nor any less, flawed than that of many other people. I notice people just say essentially, "Orange man bad," and everyone is supposed to agree he is bad.
What is it that makes his character worse than that of, lets say, Joe Biden who is a wholly owned subsidiary of China and who liked to go skinny dipping in front of female Secret Service agents. Trump is willing to fight and win, win, win. That is the main reason people hate him, as far as I can see.

 

[printcraft]

I think there's room to come together provided he doesn't enact new gun controls, roll back tax breaks, increase regulation, increase corporate taxes, mess with the energy sector, pack the supreme court, push illegal alien amnesty, allow unfettered 'immigration' etc.

 

[printcraft]

Roll back Trump's tax plan, halt the wall, re-enter the Paris Accords, revive DACA, try and implement green energy plans; and I'll be happy with Biden. Damn near everything I want Biden to do (but not all), he can do with an EO. He'll be just as accomplished as Trump by simply "undoing" Trump things.

#crippleamerica

 

[BigRed]

So serious question. Does that mean you no longer expect to vote in any future presidential election? Given your words, it only make sense to do so.
For full transparency, I don’t think either election was rigged; however, I would fully encourage you to boycott future elections, because it is beneficial to many of the ideologies and I support (some, not all). But I would be remiss in not telling you, I think it’s folly. Our elections aren’t rigged, just because Trump lost.

It has been a VERY long time since I have voted anything but Libertarian. So, it's almost the same thing.

I can vote to counter the moronic claim "well, if you don't vote you don't have a say" while casting a vote for a candidate that generally aligns more closely with Liberty than the others.

Either way, at least I read the platforms before casting a vote.

 

[BugI02]

Who is "the Colonel"?

Kurt Schlichter, the author of the article I posted upthread (Why Democrats would lose the second civil war, too). He is a retired Colonel in the Army Infantry

 

[BigRed]

Kurt Schlichter, the author of the article I posted upthread (Why Democrats would lose the second civil war, too). He is a retired Colonel in the Army Infantry

Second civil war?
We never had a first.