The Chinese Are Waging War, Are We Going To Fight Back?

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  • Tombs

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    We should have started a bombing campaign on China back in March.

    But most of our political "leaders" are bought and owned by the CCP and refuse to even call them out.
     

    BugI02

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    We should have started a bombing campaign on China back [STRIKE]in March[/STRIKE] [when MacArthur wanted to fix that problem once and for all]

    But most of our political "leaders" are bought and owned by the CCP and refuse to even call them out.

    IMO
     

    Hkindiana

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    The daily death toll in the US from Chinas flu is more than the number of soldiers who died at Pearl Harbor. So, Japan kills 2400 Americans and we declared war on the country. China kills 2400 Americans EVERY DAY, AND WE DO NOTHING.
     
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    Tombs

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    The daily death toll in the US from Chinas flu is more than the number of soldiers who died at Pearl Harbor. So, Japan kills 2400 Americans and we declared war on the country. China kills 2400 Americans EVERY DAT, AND WE DO NOTHING.

    No, we blame orange man bad for it.

    Because pointing the finger at the CCP would ruffle the feathers of the funding of our political class.
     

    Ingomike

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    No, we blame orange man bad for it.

    Because pointing the finger at the CCP would ruffle the feathers of the funding of our political class.

    And how right you are.


    China influenced American policies for decades through a covert network of “old friends” — sympathizers and agents — who had penetrated the highest levels of the U.S. government and financial institutions before the Trump administration, according to an academic linked to the Chinese government.


    Di Dongsheng, a professor and associate dean of the School of International Studies at Renmin University in Beijing, also suggested in a Nov. 28 speech that China’s Communist Party helped Hunter Biden, a son of presumptive President-elect Joseph R. Biden
    , obtain Chinese business deals.

    On influencing the United States, Mr. Di said, he could not provide further details about the work of Chinese agents without compromising their identities. However, he said President Trump’s trade war with China upset decades of close ties between Washington and Beijing that the agent network facilitated.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/6/china-agents-us-government-helped-influence-policy/








     

    Ingomike

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    You need to put some meat to that post. It is scary! We Americans are literally selling our country, freedoms, and lives to the highest bidder...

    All across America, U.S. farmland is being gobbled up by foreign interests. So when we refer to “the heartland of America”, the truth is that vast stretches of that “heartland” is now owned by foreigners, and most Americans have no idea that this is happening. These days, a lot of people are warning about the “globalization” of the world economy, but in reality, our own soil is rapidly being “globalized”. When farms are locally owned, the revenue that those farms take in tends to stay in local communities. But with foreign-owned farms, there is no guarantee that will happen. And while there is plenty of food to go around this is not a major concern, but what happens when a food crisis erupts and these foreign-owned farms just keep sending their produce out of the country? There are some very serious national security concerns here, and they really aren’t being addressed. Instead, the amount of farmland owned by foreigners just continues to increase with each passing year.
     

    TangoFoxtrot

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    You need to put some meat to that post. It is scary! We Americans are literally selling our country, freedoms, and lives to the highest bidder...

    All across America, U.S. farmland is being gobbled up by foreign interests. So when we refer to “the heartland of America”, the truth is that vast stretches of that “heartland” is now owned by foreigners, and most Americans have no idea that this is happening. These days, a lot of people are warning about the “globalization” of the world economy, but in reality, our own soil is rapidly being “globalized”. When farms are locally owned, the revenue that those farms take in tends to stay in local communities. But with foreign-owned farms, there is no guarantee that will happen. And while there is plenty of food to go around this is not a major concern, but what happens when a food crisis erupts and these foreign-owned farms just keep sending their produce out of the country? There are some very serious national security concerns here, and they really aren’t being addressed. Instead, the amount of farmland owned by foreigners just continues to increase with each passing year.
    I agree... I was 100% on board with trump when he said a few solutions to this epic problem.. he basically said (im paraphrasing) tell these countries if they think they own it then try to come and take it and as far as the China problem is we default on every "debt" to them or everytime they misbehave we simply knock of a zero on that "debt". I would take it to the next level and have every politician that ever sold off any US asset to a foreign country be charged with Treason as they are directly contributing to the destruction of our independence, our sovereignty as a nation and the constitution and people they swore to protect.

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    I think we need to face the emerging truth. We are in a brand new Cold War, or at least a new phase of the Cold War. We may have declared victory when the USSR fell, but the threat of Communism did not disappear.

    The more alarming truth is that we coming to this realization, and we are on the back foot. The CCP has been given unrivalled access to our politicians, our infrastructure, our IT, our educational institutions, our media - including Hollywood, our intellectual property, our financial markets, and we have gotten nothing in return, other than access to cheap goods. No major, global superpower can expect to survive a challenge to their status if they do not have the means of sustaining themselves domestically. In the past four years we started to take the right steps by becoming energy independent, and we were beginning to take steps to strengthen our domestic manufacturing base.

    We are living in interesting times.
     

    foszoe

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    We didn't have the economic dependence on the USSR like we do on China. I also think we've lost the will to fight, except amongst ourselves.
     

    KG1

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    Trump had the will to fight. We just didn't like his mean tweets.
     

    indyblue

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    Trump don't make a nation

    Neither do all the globalist eltist politicians that have sold their souls to Chyna (or at least they shouldn't).
    We elect them to represent US, instead they represent themselves and their cronies to advance their agendas rather than ours.

    At lease Trump tries to represent the will of the actual people of this nation and its Constitution.
     

    Ingomike

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    Trump don't make a nation

    Trump is the leader of millions of Americans that want to preserve our republic. He is leading the Americans in the fight with the Chinese and globalists and those they have duped. We are not fighting between Americans, Americans are fighting with, what did Lenin call them?
     

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    I think we need to face the emerging truth. We are in a brand new Cold War, or at least a new phase of the Cold War. We may have declared victory when the USSR fell, but the threat of Communism did not disappear.

    The more alarming truth is that we coming to this realization, and we are on the back foot. The CCP has been given unrivalled access to our politicians, our infrastructure, our IT, our educational institutions, our media - including Hollywood, our intellectual property, our financial markets, and we have gotten nothing in return, other than access to cheap goods. No major, global superpower can expect to survive a challenge to their status if they do not have the means of sustaining themselves domestically. In the past four years we started to take the right steps by becoming energy independent, and we were beginning to take steps to strengthen our domestic manufacturing base.

    We are living in interesting times.
    Amen.. I think right now one of the best things America could do completely cut off all financial and trade ties with China and funnel at least part of it to India.. China and India is a powder keg and the fuse has been ignited. A close alliance with India not only would help choke the Chicom out but would also put pressure on Russia who's ties are being strangled by there recent betrayals . China had a contract to purchase 100+ next gen migs ( plaqued with engine issues has forced Russia to retro fit the next gen mig with previous gen engines) but after the 24th mig was delivered, China pulled from the contract and started reverse engineering the next gens... needless to say this has really pissed off Putin who is being further aggrevated by china's expansionist actions prompting Putin to actually publicly scold China for their theft of Russian Intellectual property and be put in the though position of either defending china's violation or admonish them which luckily Putin did the right thing and called them out and said it must end. All of this presents GREAT political and military tactical advantages over China because they no longer have to worry about just India (who is very capable of decimating china's population and infrastructure.. it also strengthen indias position to have Russia and America join this endeavor of chines world domination.. we need Trump to do this, biden and his ***** socialist cronies don't have the mental capacity or guts to make the hard choices in front of us.. that is unless one of those choices are total, unconditional capitulation to china's will. We have a great opportunity here.. I pray there is some way to stop the socialist region in this nation from taking the wrong course but the sad truth is that on both sides of the isle, there are far to many that are willing to sell our sovereignty for the price of their power and security because they are to short sighted to see if you make a deal with the devil, you're going to lose and be burt in the process.. its reminds me of when Darth Vader took over Lando gas mining Colonie and lando says to Vader, that was not the deal and Vader response was "pray that I don't alter the deal any further. We must find a way to manipulate this current powder keg to benefit the people and not just the few of the cabal that are pulling its strings. This war is melinia old and goes back to the original ware where God promised that those that bless Israel will be blessed and those that don't will be curse.. the abrahamic covenant.. we cannot deny that these were really people and events. The only real question one is faced with in the light of history shows with certainty that there was a man named Jesus of nazarath.. the only question is do people believe he is who he claimed to be or just another nut job.. but i think his love, compassion and petty he displayed for even the most hardened criminals speaks volumes to answer that. All of this is nothing knew. It's A VERY complex issue when one developes the desire to question the presented narrative

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    Ingomike

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    A lot of people are questioning why our representatives, particulaly many republicans, are not fighting the election results, like they expected. Many close observers believe that a lot of people are compromised by China. How can that be? This may be a clue.

    WASHINGTON -- Hackers linked to China appear to have gained access to the sensitive background information submitted by intelligence and military personnel for security clearances, several U.S. officials said Friday, describing a second cyberbreach of federal records that could dramatically compound the potential damage.


    The forms authorities believed to have been accessed, known as Standard Form 86, require applicants to fill out deeply personal information about mental illnesses, drug and alcohol use, past arrests and bankruptcies.


    They also require the listing of contacts and relatives, potentially exposing any foreign relatives of U.S. intelligence employees to coercion. Both the applicant's Social Security number and that of his or her cohabitant is required.
    The officials spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the security clearance material is classified.


    "This tells the Chinese the identities of almost everybody who has got a United States security clearance," said Joel Brenner, a former top U.S. counterintelligence official. "That makes it very hard for any of those people to function as an intelligence officer. The database also tells the Chinese an enormous amount of information about almost everyone with a security clearance. That's a gold mine. It helps you approach and recruit spies."

    It also tells all the dirt for blackmail...


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/officials-second-u-s-government-hack-exposed-military-and-intel-data/

    So I heard a podcast yesterday laying out how the comprimisation occurs. From the hack they get embarrassing data, they approach the target and do a combination of threat to expose coupled with an instruction to order millions of dollars in PPE for the state and money will flow to some business or account. It may be a vote, an approval for a Chinese owned business in the state, all kinds of things, rarely are they in the interest of Americans...
     

    KG1

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    Trump don't make a nation
    Not everyone has lost the will to fight for our nation and they have chosen Trump to represent them.

    Trump is the leader of millions of Americans that want to preserve our republic. He is leading the Americans in the fight with the Chinese and globalists and those they have duped. We are not fighting between Americans, Americans are fighting with, what did Lenin call them?
    ^This^ right here.
     
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