The CZickness XIII: Lucky 13, we could all use some.

[MindfulMan]

And this.....I hope to have it done/tuned/shot in by the Gala spring event.

I love those classy cuts on the top of the slide !

 

[King31]

Who is the Wizard?

llh1956 is the one you seek

 

[canterbc]

llh1956 is the one you seek

Teach you he will.

 

[JonProphet]

Everyone must be out on the town tonight.

I put in my first order with CGW. New springs for the 75. I'm thinking about new springs for the mags as well. I don't want to pay shipping on $10 worth of springs and pay $8 shipping. =(

-JD-

 

[patience0830]

Everyone must be out on the town tonight.

I put in my first order with CGW. New springs for the 75. I'm thinking about new springs for the mags as well. I don't want to pay shipping on $10 worth of springs and pay $8 shipping. =(

-JD-

It's only money. You'll make more of it.

 

[T-DOGG]

Everyone must be out on the town tonight.

I put in my first order with CGW. New springs for the 75. I'm thinking about new springs for the mags as well. I don't want to pay shipping on $10 worth of springs and pay $8 shipping. =(

-JD-

Been lost in AR land lately. CGW ships fast. New mag springs is never a bad idea.

 

[JonProphet]

Soaking the magazine bits now..... I'll likely try a new mag or two too......

 

[mcapo]

Been lost in AR land lately. CGW ships fast. New mag springs is never a bad idea.

308 AR land?


Ban the fools, not the tools I say. wtburnette

 

[gmcttr]

I picked up my new CZ Shadow 2 Friday and put 100 rounds through it before leaving the store. When I field stripped it tonight my impression was that if was considerably cleaner inside the slide and frame than a Glock or 1911 typically would be.

Has anyone else noticed this or was it just my imagination?

 

[wtburnette]

I picked up my new CZ Shadow 2 Friday and put 100 rounds through it before leaving the store. When I field stripped it tonight my impression was that if was considerably cleaner inside the slide and frame than a Glock or 1911 typically would be.

Has anyone else noticed this or was it just my imagination?

I've never noticed a difference like that between different guns, but I have with different ammo brands. You weren't shooting different ammo than normal were you? Tula, Aguila, WWB and Magtech all shoot really dirty, at least it seems that way to me. Dirtier than my normal Blazer Brass, Federal Champion, Federal American Eagle or Geco anyway.

 

[T-DOGG]

308 AR land?


Ban the fools, not the tools I say. wtburnette

Of course. Ran the new rifle yesterday. Exceeded expectations. Shot 9 different brands, mostly mil-surp and Wolf steel case, 3 of those brands shot between 1.15" - 1.839" groups, the rest were 2 - 4" at 100yds with a 3.5x Acog using a moderate rate of fire. Ironically, the 2 brands that were over $0.50 per round (Fiocchi & PRVI) grouped the worst. I've got some Federal XM80C arriving tomorrow, so I will need to see how that does. My plan with this rifle is to mirror my 16" 5.56 AR, but in a bigger caliber and have combat accuracy while keeping ammo cost down. That's why I bought a selection of ammo with the lower cost (Wolf can be had for $0.34 per round).

 

[churchmouse]

Of course. Ran the new rifle yesterday. Exceeded expectations. Shot 9 different brands, mostly mil-surp and Wolf steel case, 3 of those brands shot between 1.15" - 1.839" groups, the rest were 2 - 4" at 100yds with a 3.5x Acog using a moderate rate of fire. Ironically, the 2 brands that were over $0.50 per round (Fiocchi & PRVI) grouped the worst. I've got some Federal XM80C arriving tomorrow, so I will need to see how that does. My plan with this rifle is to mirror my 16" 5.56 AR, but in a bigger caliber and have combat accuracy while keeping ammo cost down. That's why I bought a selection of ammo with the lower cost (Wolf can be had for $0.34 per round).

I never run steel case in anything I own. Just me.
I do zero with the lesser cost ammo and then find what the rifle really likes.

 

[T-DOGG]

I never run steel case in anything I own. Just me.
I do zero with the lesser cost ammo and then find what the rifle really likes.

I completely understand that. I know it's drawbacks/shortcomings. I don't run it exclusively in my rifles, but I do use it frequently. I've had nothing but great results with Wolf rifle ammo over the years, zero malfunctions, good accuracy and greatly reduces costs for training. I would not use it for defense ammo though. I stay away from Tula steel case anything, had numerous problems with those including blown out primers and stuck cases that needed the hammer of Thor to remove. I also don't use Wolf pistol ammo, I had issues with and won't use that again either, but rifles yes.

 

[wtburnette]

Morning fellers...

 

[churchmouse]

I completely understand that. I know it's drawbacks/shortcomings. I don't run it exclusively in my rifles, but I do use it frequently. I've had nothing but great results with Wolf rifle ammo over the years, zero malfunctions, good accuracy and greatly reduces costs for training. I would not use it for defense ammo though. I stay away from Tula steel case anything, had numerous problems with those including blown out primers and stuck cases that needed the hammer of Thor to remove. I also don't use Wolf pistol ammo, I had issues with and won't use that again either, but rifles yes.

Makes perfect sense. I know way to many who will use steel case as you do and some exclusively due to costs. I get it.
I have a box of steel case ammo (brand name eludes me this early/pre ) that a buddy uses on Varmints/Yotes and swears by it. He gave me a box to try. Not gotten there yet.

 

[T-DOGG]

Makes perfect sense. I know way to many who will use steel case as you do and some exclusively due to costs. I get it.
I have a box of steel case ammo (brand name eludes me this early/pre ) that a buddy uses on Varmints/Yotes and swears by it. He gave me a box to try. Not gotten there yet.

I know Hornady makes some Match ammo that is steel cased, but I've never used it. The 3 main issues with steel case ammo in general, for those that don't know: 1) the steel casing does not expand as much as brass does, which eventually leads to build up in the chamber walls. 2) Most steel case ammo has a bi-metal jacket that is magnetic, this leads to increased barrel wear. Windham Weaponry (the brand 308 I bought) says it can reduce barrel life by 4k rounds if used exclusively in their rifles. That being said, I bought a box of Wolf .308 that is copper jacketed and not bi-metal that performed well, so I could run that and have better barrel life. That is the first Wolf steel case I've seen offered that way. 3) Generally the rounds are underpowered and can cause cycling issues in some guns. Windham says to run at least 100 rounds of brass case ammo through one of their new rifles before running steel case. They say until the gun is broke in, the rings in the bolt are seated, that cycling issues can occur. I can personally attest to that in a Ruger AR-556 that I previously had. That gun would not cycle steel cased ammo until I got a few hundred rounds through it. Also, I can easily hear and feel the difference when I'm running steel case in my AR's, it's quieter and softer recoiling.

Like I said, I am fully aware of what running steel case ammo brings to the table with it. I don't advocate for it and I don't blame others for not wanting to run it. I'm a cheap arse and I have great success with Wolf ammo so it works for me. YMMV.

 

[churchmouse]

Well said T-D

 

[patience0830]

9.75 mi/31 minutes on the bike this morning. BP 101/61 after and rested.

 

[churchmouse]

9.75 mi/31 minutes on the bike this morning. BP 101/61 after and rested.

Used to actually run 5/7 miles every morning before work.
Not sure I miss those days.....

 

[mcapo]

Morning. Gave up on the tea experiment...back to coffee.

Of course. Ran the new rifle yesterday. Exceeded expectations. Shot 9 different brands, mostly mil-surp and Wolf steel case, 3 of those brands shot between 1.15" - 1.839" groups, the rest were 2 - 4" at 100yds with a 3.5x Acog using a moderate rate of fire. Ironically, the 2 brands that were over $0.50 per round (Fiocchi & PRVI) grouped the worst. I've got some Federal XM80C arriving tomorrow, so I will need to see how that does. My plan with this rifle is to mirror my 16" 5.56 AR, but in a bigger caliber and have combat accuracy while keeping ammo cost down. That's why I bought a selection of ammo with the lower cost (Wolf can be had for $0.34 per round).

That el cheap Guardian ammo that I got off you actually groups pretty well. Still have a little if you want to try a box...my best factory ammo is Hornady Match BTHP 168 gr. Haven't tried any reloads.

Used to actually run 5/7 miles every morning before work.
Not sure I miss those days.....

Oh, I sure miss running....missed the Winter Night Trail Marathon at Eagle Creek for the first in time since the started it. :-( Apparently, they have a weight limit I exceeded.