The Open Carry Argument

[Ddillard]

Concealed, open carry, doesn't matter. It all depends upon the individual and his/her awareness. The individual needs to be fluid in the carry, always incharge of the surroundings.

 

[2A_Tom]

So, if you don't want to argue why the heck did you post in this thread!

 

[protias]

No matter how you carry (open or concealed) you have to be conditioned for situational awareness. A lot of people aren't, and that's when issues can happen. I carry in both manners, depending on where I am, and never had a issue

So you didn't really read the first post?

Concealed, open carry, doesn't matter. It all depends upon the individual and his/her awareness. The individual needs to be fluid in the carry, always incharge of the surroundings.

So you didn't really read the first post?

So, if you don't want to argue why the heck did you post in this thread!

Probably racing to 50...which the second guy has done...

 

[Lebowski]

To be honest, I wish everyone open carried. If everyone did it, it'd not be a big deal. People would see that they're constantly surrounded by just your average Joe and that they're armed. The guy who opens and holds the door open for the stranger at the store, the lady who says 'bless you' when the person in front of her sneezes at the bank, the young married couple who stop on the sidewalk to admire the dog being walked down the street.

If everyone who carries OCed, people who don't carry would stop being afraid of it. And if everyone else did, people like me would be much less hesitant to do it in public too.

 

[2A_Tom]

To be honest, I wish everyone open carried. If everyone did it, it'd not be a big deal. People would see that they're constantly surrounded by just your average Joe and that they're armed. The guy who opens and holds the door open for the stranger at the store, the lady who says 'bless you' when the person in front of her sneezes at the bank, the young married couple who stop on the sidewalk to admire the dog being walked down the street.

If everyone who carries OCed, people who don't carry would stop being afraid of it. And if everyone else did, people like me would be much less hesitant to do it in public too.

Don't be hesitant. I OC all the time and have many positive encounters. Most folks either don't notice or just don't care. I do notice some folks giving an inquisitive look occasionally, but I just smile and say Hi. All in all I feel that I am a positive influence on public opinion.

 

[Koven]

This ought to fuel some discussion:

The Perils of Open Carry | Active Response Training

tl;dr: train force-on-force, learn retention skills, keep your head out of your ass, and don't carry in a ****ty holster.

What do people consider a bad holster for OC?

 

[2A_Tom]

Any type of nylon holster without a stiff body and good retention, that are generally made for different sizes of guns not specific guns. Holsters that are molded from solid Kydex or Nylon for specific pistols that offer good retention/level 2 or 3 retention are preferred.

 

[wtburnette]

Any type of nylon holster without a stiff body and good retention, that are generally made for different sizes of guns not specific guns. Holsters that are molded from solid Kydex or Nylon for specific pistols that offer good retention/level 2 or 3 retention are preferred.

A good leather pancake holster also works well.

 

[2A_Tom]

I had a Desantes leather pancake holster when I first started carrying and after a year it had no retention and once whwn i feel the gun hit the ground.

I personally don't prefer a thumb break.

My choice is the Galco Matrix M7.

 

[chipbennett]

I had a Desantes leather pancake holster when I first started carrying and after a year it had no retention and once whwn i feel the gun hit the ground.

I personally don't prefer a thumb break.

My choice is the Galco Matrix M7.

This is currently my hands-down favorite holster:

https://www.safariland.com/products...78-gls-pro-fit-holster-with-paddle-57800.html

 

[eldirector]

What do people consider a bad holster for OC?

For starters, those floppy nylon ones. If you can't run/jump without losing your gun, it is a bad holster (for most ANY purpose).

Most folks prefer some sort of retention: a snap, button, strap, whatever. I liked my leather with thumb-break, until the leather started to get really worn. My current "plastic" with a release button seems to work pretty well so far.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I had a Desantes leather pancake holster when I first started carrying and after a year it had no retention and once whwn i feel the gun hit the ground.

I personally don't prefer a thumb break.

My choice is the Galco Matrix M7.

I've noticed Desantis leather holsters become soft rather quickly compared to other, more expensive leather holsters. I thought they were a good leather holster when I first started carrying, but now not so much. My next non-custom leather holster will be a Galco to try out.

 

[wtburnette]

I had a Desantes leather pancake holster when I first started carrying and after a year it had no retention and once whwn i feel the gun hit the ground.

I personally don't prefer a thumb break.

My choice is the Galco Matrix M7.

I've noticed Desantis leather holsters become soft rather quickly compared to other, more expensive leather holsters. I thought they were a good leather holster when I first started carrying, but now not so much. My next non-custom leather holster will be a Galco to try out.

Dang, I hate hearing that about Desantis because I just bought a Speed Scabbard for my Legion P226 SAO. I've been using a Galco Combat Master for about a year and it's been fantastic and I had hoped the Desantis would be comparable.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

There's a thread on the Indianapolis subreddit with a user asking about OC in Indy. A few people have already responded to them saying how trashy it is and giving generally negative feedback.

Maybe some actual gun owners should shed some light on the topic?

reddit.com/r/indianapolis/comments/4n9qsj/is_open_carry_that_uncommon_in_indy/

 

[KLB]

Well, I chimed in. I love ignorant people

 

[SteveM4A1]

Dang, I hate hearing that about Desantis because I just bought a Speed Scabbard for my Legion P226 SAO. I've been using a Galco Combat Master for about a year and it's been fantastic and I had hoped the Desantis would be comparable.

Hopefully you have a different experience. I've only had 2 holsters from them and after a year of use they seemed worn out. I know there will be a difference between a $30 holster and an $80 holster, I just expected more since they get such good reviews online.

 

[wtburnette]

Hopefully you have a different experience. I've only had 2 holsters from them and after a year of use they seemed worn out. I know there will be a difference between a $30 holster and an $80 holster, I just expected more since they get such good reviews online.

I guess I'll know in a year or so.

 

[wtburnette]

There's a thread on the Indianapolis subreddit with a user asking about OC in Indy. A few people have already responded to them saying how trashy it is and giving generally negative feedback.

Maybe some actual gun owners should shed some light on the topic?

reddit.com/r/indianapolis/comments/4n9qsj/is_open_carry_that_uncommon_in_indy/

I signed up just to respond to that.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I signed up just to respond to that.

Heh, just saw.

While lot of really uninformed comments there about carrying, in general. People are terrified of inanimate objects.

 

[wtburnette]

Heh, just saw.

While lot of really uninformed comments there about carrying, in general. People are terrified of inanimate objects.

I don't understand the attitude. Nor those of other 2nd amendment supporters who want to bash people who carry in a different manner...