The Republican Primary Race Is Filling Up

[ArcadiaGP]

I acknowledge the haters, continually digging for any tiny little thing to exploit and be the first to do it. Doing their best to head us to a Hilary victory, kill the Second Amendment, doom our children to a liberal Supreme Court and allow our borders to flow a liberal voting block that can never be beaten.

Careful, you guys keep accusing people (illogically) of being Hillary supporters, they might start believing it and vote for her out of confusion.

Edit:

Lewandowski says Manafort should resign if he signed off on speech.

Reince says he'd probably fire speechwriter.

 

[jamil]

I acknowledge the haters, continually digging for any tiny little thing to exploit and be the first to do it. Doing their best to head us to a Hilary victory, kill the Second Amendment, doom our children to a liberal Supreme Court and allow our borders to flow a liberal voting block that can never be beaten.

Could it be that they're not actually haters, that they actually see some legitimate concerns with Trump. Could it be that you not seeing that is a sign that you might not be looking at Trump objectively? Isn't it a concern that Trump doesn't have a quality campaign? He could get away with it during the primary election. I'm not sure it'll work for him now.

And you should feel very, very lucky that he's running against a criminal. Bernie the Socialist, or Joe the Clown would be far, far ahead.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you're going to support Trump for the highest political office in the land, you should hold him more accountable. It's okay to say when your guy sucks. It's okay to tell him he sucks. That would possibly make him a better candidate.

Instead, you guys just, like, deny everything. I mean, don't get me wrong. The press is making far more of a scandal than there is. They routinely make more of Trump's supposed racism than there is. They don't treat him fairly. But there is some fire in that smoke. It's okay to admit it.

 

[PaulF]

No one thought he could win the primary...Huffington Post put his campaign in their "entertainment" section...The mainstream media called his campaign "over" every week for six months...

I gather you believe there is no way he is going to win...No one has believed in him but himself and he has been proving he was right for the past 6 months....

Trump is going to be our President...He just is....I am sorry but it is so....

I heard an interesting tidbit on the radio this morning, it went something like this:

Both parties hate the opposing candidate more than any other time in history...but they both dislike their own candidate, as well.

With the mathematical facts of the electoral college in play, I have to think this whole thing may come down to voter turnout.

The Democrats don't have to work very hard in a National election to take the Electoral seats they need for victory...all they have to do is paint HRC as "the adult in the room", and they are likely already in the home stretch.

So far, all Trump has going for him is that he "Isn't Hillary Clinton". That may be a powerful motivator to people on this forum, and to a lesser degree, the larger "conservative sphere"...but:

Trump may also inspire many "True Conservatives" to stay home in a de-facto vote of "no confidence", while he motivates the democrats to their polling places in force.

Please, INGO, don't let this election be Romney 2.0...people outside the conservative media bubble see Trump as almost as much of a threat to our liberty as Clinton...and A Clinton presidency is a sure-fire way to keep conservative think-tanks funded for the next decade.

Trump is no sure thing...he looks like another "Romney Landslide" to me.

 

[bwframe]

I acknowledge the haters, continually digging for any tiny little thing to exploit and be the first to do it. Doing their best to head us to a Hilary victory, kill the Second Amendment, doom our children to a liberal Supreme Court and allow our borders to flow a liberal voting block that can never be beaten.

Careful, you guys keep accusing people (snip) of being Hillary supporters, they might start believing it and vote for her out of confusion.

Doesn't matter. They are voting for Hilary anyway. The only vote that can beat her is one for Trump. Anything else is a same as a vote for her.

 

[T.Lex]

This is why you should always check the expiration dates. This guy was what? 8 years past his "best if used by" date?

Lewandowski says Manafort should resign if he signed off on speech.

Reince says he'd probably fire speechwriter.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the same person/panel wrote both speeches?

Doesn't matter. They are voting for Hilary anyway. The only vote that can beat her is one for Trump. Anything else is a same as a vote for her.

You keep saying that and it still isn't true.

 

[ATM]

Doesn't matter. They are voting for Hilary anyway. The only vote that can beat her is one for Trump. Anything else is a same as a vote for her.

Of the actual remaining choices, would you rather I not vote, vote for Johnson, or vote directly for Clinton? Is there really no distinction to you?

 

[T.Lex]

Of the actual remaining choices, would you rather I not vote, vote for Johnson, or vote directly for Clinton? Is there really no distinction to you?

Elsewhere, I believe he has stated that there is no distinction to him. Something about being an example to swing voters in other states.

Maybe he'll elaborate this time.

 

[jamil]

I heard an interesting tidbit on the radio this morning, it went something like this:

Both parties hate the opposing candidate more than any other time in history...but they both dislike their own candidate, as well.

With the mathematical facts of the electoral college in play, I have to think this whole thing may come down to voter turnout.

The Democrats don't have to work very hard in a National election to take the Electoral seats they need for victory...all they have to do is paint HRC as "the adult in the room", and they are likely already in the home stretch.

So far, all Trump has going for him is that he "Isn't Hillary Clinton". That may be a powerful motivator to people on this forum, and to a lesser degree, the larger "conservative sphere"...but:

Trump may also inspire many "True Conservatives" to stay home in a de-facto vote of "no confidence", while he motivates the democrats to their polling places in force.

Please, INGO, don't let this election be Romney 2.0...people outside the conservative media bubble see Trump as almost as much of a threat to our liberty as Clinton...and A Clinton presidency is a sure-fire way to keep conservative think-tanks funded for the next decade.

Trump is no sure thing...he looks like another "Romney Landslide" to me.

Every election comes down to voter turnout. There were enough Republican-ish voters to defeat Obama both times, but they stayed home. It's what I said way before the election season started. The factions in the Republican party just don't like each other, and many will stay home if another faction gets the nomination. If Ron Paul would have gotten the nomination, many establishment types would stay home. If Santorum would have gotten the nomination then the Paul and establishment types would have stayed home. So Romney got the nomination, and many of the Paul and Santorum types stayed home.

The only thing that makes this election different is the degree to which it will happen. Trump is a very extreme, fringe kind of candidate. But that's the outcome our process gave us. The only thing motivating me to vote for Trump is that as bad as he is, Hillary is worse.

 

[printcraft]

So the only options for political office in the united states are establishment candidates and more of the same?
Same demoncrats and same republicans year after year and we are shocked that nothing changes and just gets worse?

 

[T.Lex]

So the only options for political office in the united states are establishment candidates and more of the same?
Same demoncrats and same republicans year after year and we are shocked that nothing changes and just gets worse?

Societies change. They evolve. This is indisputable.

So, governments change.

Which party has done more to change slowly, or in "right" directions? More the classic definition of "conservative" = not changing with the times.

The Republican Party didn't pass Obamacare, the single largest gov't shift to the left in my lifetime. That's just one example.

Has the Republican Party done all that they could to be conservative? No. Hayl no. Has it done enough for me to consider it the more conservative party? Yes. Until this year.

 

[Dead Duck]

Of the actual remaining choices, would you rather I vote directly for Clinton, vote directly for Clinton, or vote directly for Clinton? Is there really no distinction to you?

Nope-
They're pretty much the same.

 

[jamil]

So the only options for political office in the united states are establishment candidates and more of the same?
Same demoncrats and same republicans year after year and we are shocked that nothing changes and just gets worse?

As long as we have a system that make it between just two choices, yes. That's exactly what it comes down to. If you don't want the Democrat turd to win, you have to vote for the Republican douche. Imagine a way to vote where you can just vote one time for the candidate you really want. We don't have that.

 

[jamil]

Of the actual remaining choices, would you rather I not vote, vote for Johnson, or vote directly for Clinton? Is there really no distinction to you?

Nope-
They're pretty much the same.

If they were REALLY the same, you wouldn't have needed to alter his post to make them the same.

 

[printcraft]

As long as we have a system that make it between just two choices, yes. That's exactly what it comes down to. If you don't want the Democrat turd to win, you have to vote for the Republican douche. Imagine a way to vote where you can just vote one time for the candidate you really want. We don't have that.

I'm referring to establishment types. Outsiders can never get in; any outsider.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

RNC's chief strategist, Sean Spicer, is now citing "My Little Pony"... saying "Sparkle Pony" used same phrase as Melania.

I don't think I have the words anymore to explain how embarrassed I feel for them.

https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/755455836240089088

Edit: And Limbaugh is now justifying the Melania speech by pointing out Obama plagiarized Deval Patrick.

I didn't think I'd live long enough to see Republicans do the same "But Bush!" nonsense that Democrats have been doing for years. But here it is... 2015-2016... just full of it.

 

[T.Lex]

I think we found the speechwriter.

Melania Trump herself. Quoting her favorite modern philosophers.... Rick Astley, Michelle Obama, Sparkle Pony....

Can't fire the candidate's wife. (Believe me, many a campaign manager would, if they could.)

 

[jamil]

RNC's chief strategist, Sean Spicer, is now citing "My Little Pony"... saying "Sparkle Pony" used same phrase as Melania.

I don't think I have the words anymore to explain how embarrassed I feel for them.

https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/755455836240089088

Edit: And Limbaugh is now justifying the Melania speech by pointing out Obama plagiarized Deval Patrick.

I didn't think I'd live long enough to see Republicans do the same "But Bush!" nonsense that Democrats have been doing for years. But here it is... 2015-2016... just full of it.

It's like that Iraqi General that kept saying crazy stuff everyone knew was bull**** back during the beginning of the war.

 

[PaulF]

I think we found the speechwriter.

Melania Trump herself. Quoting her favorite modern philosophers.... Rick Astley, Michelle Obama, Sparkle Pony....

Can't fire the candidate's wife. (Believe me, many a campaign manager would, if they could.)

In this modern SJW/tumblr world, is it really so hard to believe that Sparkle Pony is a voice of a generation...

 

[MisterChester]

The plagiarism does look bad. It doesn't concern me a whole lot, as it appears that it is the fault of a speechwriter either plagiarizing or did not do enough research. Plus, this is the future first-lady, and first-ladies do not have real power.

 

[Dead Duck]

The plagiarism does look bad. It doesn't concern me a whole lot, as it appears that it is the fault of a speechwriter either plagiarizing or did not do enough research. Plus, this is the future first-lady, and first-ladies do not have real power.

You're not married, are you?