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    dusty88

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    Beth said, "I get it now," hence my question, what did she 'get'.

    She "gets" that she was being abused, though Dawn tried to make her feel like a friend.

    I think that is all that Beth's reaction was supposed to be about: an abused person lashing back at the abuser. She couldn't and didn't predict getting shot or the group's reaction. But she was a girl who was maturing and growing and wasn't going to walk away from being treated like that. Having Noah taken back, after she helped him escape, was her last straw.

    I'm surprised nobody else here was concerned/commenting about Dawn's hand being on the trigger of the gun. From the look on her face after shooting Beth, she didn't shoot her intentionally. They used the idea that she had her hand on the trigger to make it a somewhat accidental discharge.


    What I wanted to hear during the verbal exchange (ie regarding Dawn asking for Noah back) was someone voicing the obvious that the cops weren't seeing: they were effectively keeping slaves. Rick's group took hostages only out of temporary necessity. The hospital group was using slaves for their own survival.
     

    actaeon277

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    She "gets" that she was being abused, though Dawn tried to make her feel like a friend.

    I think that is all that Beth's reaction was supposed to be about: an abused person lashing back at the abuser. She couldn't and didn't predict getting shot or the group's reaction. But she was a girl who was maturing and growing and wasn't going to walk away from being treated like that. Having Noah taken back, after she helped him escape, was her last straw.

    I'm surprised nobody else here was concerned/commenting about Dawn's hand being on the trigger of the gun. From the look on her face after shooting Beth, she didn't shoot her intentionally. They used the idea that she had her hand on the trigger to make it a somewhat accidental discharge.


    What I wanted to hear during the verbal exchange (ie regarding Dawn asking for Noah back) was someone voicing the obvious that the cops weren't seeing: they were effectively keeping slaves. Rick's group took hostages only out of temporary necessity. The hospital group was using slaves for their own survival.

    Dawn was also balancing the groups. If one group got to powerful, they could make a play. But with both groups battling each other, they'd leave Dawn alone.
     

    JTScribe

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    She "gets" that she was being abused, though Dawn tried to make her feel like a friend.

    I think that is all that Beth's reaction was supposed to be about: an abused person lashing back at the abuser. She couldn't and didn't predict getting shot or the group's reaction. But she was a girl who was maturing and growing and wasn't going to walk away from being treated like that. Having Noah taken back, after she helped him escape, was her last straw.

    I'm surprised nobody else here was concerned/commenting about Dawn's hand being on the trigger of the gun. From the look on her face after shooting Beth, she didn't shoot her intentionally. They used the idea that she had her hand on the trigger to make it a somewhat accidental discharge.


    What I wanted to hear during the verbal exchange (ie regarding Dawn asking for Noah back) was someone voicing the obvious that the cops weren't seeing: they were effectively keeping slaves. Rick's group took hostages only out of temporary necessity. The hospital group was using slaves for their own survival.

    Which is weird because I noted very good trigger discipline when she was pointing her gun at the cop they ended up throwing down the elevator shaft.
     

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    Yeah. Well this thread is for people who like the show. Can we have a thread about how stupid the show is?
     
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    JollyMon

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    New teaser trailer for the upcoming season.

    [video=youtube_share;Pv4-F6Q-1FQ]http://youtu.be/Pv4-F6Q-1FQ[/video]


    Interesting case being ejected from the AR.... seems too long.... I know they are blanks

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    Kutnupe14

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    Why in the hell haven't they tried to find another safer place? They're so close to the water, why not find cruise ship, run it aground (or anchor it out someplace close to shore), and live there? Take little speedboats and make excursions to land for supplies.
     

    RustyHornet

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    Why in the hell haven't they tried to find another safer place? They're so close to the water, why not find cruise ship, run it aground (or anchor it out someplace close to shore), and live there? Take little speedboats and make excursions to land for supplies.

    Well that wouldn't make for very good television!
     

    Libertarian01

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    Why in the hell haven't they tried to find another safer place? They're so close to the water, why not find cruise ship, run it aground (or anchor it out someplace close to shore), and live there? Take little speedboats and make excursions to land for supplies.


    To All,

    I have been wondering this ^^^ for a very long time!:dunno:

    I didn't get the cruise ship idea, although I agree it would be novel and hard to attack due to its height. I think it is an idea worth considering.

    My idea was from the CDC to a place called "Lake Lanier Islands Park" on a road called Lanier Islands Parkway. There is a series of about five (5) islands all connected by a single road that dead ends into the last island. This place would be awesome for surviving zombies! It has no less than five (5) choke points along the road from island to island, and possibly three (3) or four (4) more choke points with additional smaller islands. Here you could go fishing, possibly hunting(?), and scavenging nearby communities that are somewhat built up. There are multiple small medical facilities all within 10 - 15 miles. It is ridiculous that they haven't tried to settle down somewhere else.

    Nomadic peoples do not normally grow in population. Societies don't develop well without stability. Blacksmiths and tradesmen and the like NEED buildings and tools to work in. They don't work well when constantly packing and trying to work on the road in transit. We didn't learn to grow the crops by hunting and gathering. We learned how to farm once we settled down and allowed specialists to do just grow crops year round! Then they learned how to fertilize, rotate fields, and gather seeds efficiently.

    Could people both travel and grow? Sure, for a time. But even Ghengis Khan didn't have his own engineers or silversmiths. He got those from the Chinese cities he conquered! Society grows when people can specialize, when we can focus on perfecting a single job we become exceedingly efficient. It's like when people discuss surviving a TEOTWAWKI situation. Some folks know how to do a LOT. That's good, but only short term. The reality is no one person will have the time to do everything! You cannot plant the crops and milk the cows and care for the bees and brew the beer and make the moonshine and repair the roof and clean the clothes and pump the water and hunt the meat and skin the animal and pick up the nuts and shell the nuts and and and and... Time is a constant we cannot change, so instead we must change the number of hands to do all the work in one day.

    If Ricks group continues to just bumble through the wilderness without making friends with other groups and without trade then they are doomed to extinction. At least that's my opinion.

    Regards,

    Doug

    PS - Now 11 Days!
     
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