The Younger/Dryas comet impact crater found...How old is civilization??

[NKBJ]

I think a lot of history and archeology have been destroyed in the name of religion, or to hold or create power.

This is an awesome thread!

MM

Yep, the immediate needs of politics in any age take precedence over any knowledge of the past.
Ever wonder if the library at Alexandria was torched?

By the way, there was an Indiana researcher on Caravan To Midnight about a year ago telling about the stone walls and remnants of fortifications that were removed from the Ohio River by the railroads at the behest of DC. Very interesting history. Just today I heard about the number of ancient building sites around the state of Ohio as well as many strung across the continent.

 

[indiucky]

By the way, there was an Indiana researcher on Caravan To Midnight about a year ago telling about the stone walls and remnants of fortifications that were removed from the Ohio River by the railroads at the behest of DC. Very interesting history.

Devil's Bakbone at 14 mile island....They used the stones as fill while building the big four RR bridge.....

Here's what it looked like before they did that...Prince Madoc is who built it they say....

This author of this book came into the shop to look at my rock with the runes on it....

 

[indiucky]

Trailer for Graham Hancock's new book...Joe Rogan is going to have him on in April right before the release...

[video=youtube;ad4ZRlT91h4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad4ZRlT91h4[/video]


[FONT=&quot]Hancock is continuing his exploration of an advanced civilization which could have been wiped out by those cataclysms, but not without ‘seeding’ some of their knowledge into other cultures all around the globe. Now instead of Egypt or Angkor Wat he is turning his gaze toward the ‘New World’ with his latest book AMERICA BEFORE: The Key to Earth’s Lost Civilization:[/FONT]

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Was an advanced civilization lost to history in the global cataclysm that ended the last Ice Age? Graham Hancock, the internationally bestselling author, has made it his life’s work to find out — and in America Before he draws on the latest archaeological and DNA evidence to bring his quest to a stunning conclusion.
Hancock’s research takes us on a series of journeys and encounters with the scientific rebels responsible for the recent extraordinary breakthroughs. In the process, from the Mississippi Valley to the Amazon rainforest, he reveals that ancient ‘New World’ cultures share a legacy of advanced scientific knowledge and sophisticated spiritual beliefs with supposedly unconnected ‘Old World’ cultures.
Have archaeologists focussed for too long only on the ‘Old World’ in their search for the origins of civilization while failing to consider the revolutionary possibility that those origins might in fact be found in the ‘New World’?
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[NKBJ]

Mister Hancock is certainly pushing the envelope on permissible history.
And I love it when he's sharpening his letter opener.

Were it out for a vote, looks to me as though our shared heritage predates current geography by a huge passage of time.

 

[NKBJ]

This was an interesting interview with Hancock. But then again, most any of them are!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWmaiexDRGs

 

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[Gabriel]

That made me laugh a lot harder than it probably should have. I can hardly wait for the next one.

 

[indiucky]

The Day the Earth Changed...

https://dailygalaxy.com/2019/03/the...y-a-young-31-kilometer-wide-greenland-crater/

“It’s much more extreme than I ever thought,” said UC Santa Barbara geology professor emeritus, James Kennett, about signs of a major cosmic impact that occurred toward the end of the Pleistocene epoch known as the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis, which postulates that a fragmented comet slammed into the Earth close to 12,800 years ago, causing rapid climatic changes, megafaunal extinctions, sudden human population decrease and cultural shifts and widespread wildfires.

 

[NKBJ]

Slightly related...

Heard today about the Chinese records showing their going to the Mississippi Valley. Them wanting the iron ore in Missouri. Intentionally introducing diseases. If and as the information becomes available I look forward to the story being fleshed out and all the evidence presented.

 

[indiucky]

Joe Rogan just tweeted this....

https://www.livescience.com/64964-huge-ancient-solar-storm-hit-earth.html

Ice Samples Reveal a Massive Sun Storm Hit Earth in Ancient Times...And It Could Happen Again

[FONT=&amp]These findings suggest that such explosions recur regularly in Earth's history, and could wreak havoc if they were to hit now, given how dependent the world has become on electricity.
The sun can bombard Earth with explosions of highly energetic particles known as solar proton events. These "proton storms" can endanger people and electronics both in space and in the air. [Top 10 Greatest Explosions Ever]
In addition, when a proton storm hits Earth's magnetosphere — the shell of electrically charged particles — it is trapped by Earth's magnetic field. When the solar storm causes a disturbance in our planet's magnetosphere, it's called a geomagnetic storm which can wreak devastation on power grids across the planet. For example, in 1989, a solar outburst blacked out the entire Canadian province of Quebec within seconds, damaging transformers as far away as New Jersey, and nearly shutting down U.S. power grids from the mid-Atlantic through the Pacific Northwest.cient solar activity.
The scientists examined ice from two core samples taken from Greenland. They noted a spike of radioactive beryllium-10 and chlorine-36 about 2,610 years ago. This matches prior work examining tree rings that suggested a spike of carbon-14 about the same time. [Photos: Craters Hidden Beneath the Greenland Ice Sheet]
Previous research detected two other ancient proton storms in a similar manner — one happened about A.D. 993-994, and the other about A.D. 774-775. The latter is the largest solar eruption known to date.
Regarding number of high-energy protons, the 660 B.C. and the A.D. 774-775 events are about 10 times larger than the strongest proton storm seen in the modern day, which occurred in 1956, Muscheler said. The A.D. 993-994 event was smaller than the other two ancient storms by about a factor of two to three, he added.
It remains unclear how these ancient proton storms compared with the Carrington Event, since estimates of the number of protons from the Carrington Event are very uncertain, Muscheler said. However, if these ancient solar outbursts "were connected with a geomagnetic storm, I would assume that they would exceed the worst-case scenarios that are often based on Carrington-type events," he noted.
Although more research is needed to see how much damage such eruptions might inflict, this work suggests "these enormous events are a recurring feature of the sun — we now have three big events during the past 3,000 years," Muscheler said. "There might be more that we have not yet discovered."
"We need to search systematically for these events in the environmental archives to get a good idea about the statistics — that is, the risks — for such events and also smaller events," Muscheler added. "The challenge will be to find the smaller ones that probably still exceed anything we measured in recent decades."
The scientists detailed their findings online today (March 11) in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.


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[finnegan]

More info on the solar flare that happened in 775 AD during the reign of Charlemagne.
https://www.21stcentech.com/charlemagne-event-774-775-ad-caused-solar-storm/

 

[indiucky]

It's nice to see America getting some love here...

[video=youtube;uAXIWnzGLnw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXIWnzGLnw[/video]

 

[indiucky]

From a new Graham Hancock interview.....

[FONT=&quot]21:30-25:30: On being on the Joe Rogan podcast, and debating Michael Shermer. “I began to realise how ideological this all is…. it’s helped me to understand that there is an ideological war over our past.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As an example, discusses the extinction of megafauna around 12,800 years ago.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The mainstream, for some reason in this [ideological war], doesn’t like cataclysms. It doesn’t like cataclysmic events. It doesn’t want to think that cataclysms have played a role in the human story. So seeking for a way to explain the disappearance of the megafauna, the natural option for a mainstream archaeologist is to say ‘oh that was human predation that did it’…and suddenly we’re required to picture a group of hunter-gatherers who are so incredibly efficient, and so ruthless, that they wipe out the entire megafauna of North America in a matter of months.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So, there’s a tendency in the study of prehistory to want to keep the past kind of nice and calm, and just the way it is now. There’s even a word for it, it’s called ‘uniformitarianism’…and it’s a doctrine.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]26:00-30:15: Discusses controversy over ‘Clovis culture’.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“The position of archaeology for 50 years is ‘those were the first human beings to enter the Americas, no human beings entered the Americas before 13,600 years ago. And those are the same archaeologists who repeatedly called me a pseudoscientist, or a pseudoarchaeologist, for suggesting other possibilities.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But lo and behold, what do we find? Around 2010 onwards, the evidence becomes ovewhelming that Clovis was not first, not first at all…not even by a tiny margin, by a huge margin… All archaeologists admit this now, that ‘Clovis first’ was a mistake, they got it wrong, completely wrong…. but what they don’t comment on is the careers that were ruined as a result.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]…So when archaeologists of that type say ‘Hancock is a pseudoscientist’, I say ‘Hang on a minute, you guys are the pseudoscientists. You guys sold us Clovis first for 50 years. You guys withdrew funding from research that might have exposed that lie earlier…you wouldn’t let it happen’. And that’s not right, it shouldn’t be that way. Archaeologists should not take the view that they have got a firm and fixed picture of the past. Because actually we know so little about the past. They should always be saying ‘this is our provisional position, but we are open to other possibilities’. Because if they don’t say that, those other possibilities are going to come along and kick them in the ass pretty soon.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]…[It’s not a] small matter. Because if human beings have been in the Americas for 130,000 years, instead of for 13,000 years, well then there’s 100,000+ years that archaeologists haven’t looked at because of their preconceived notions.”[/FONT]

 

[finnegan]

More catastrophe theory, this one was an eruption in Italy that most likely wiped out our cousins, the Neanderthal. Most of Europe was under inches to feet of volcanic ash 39,000 years ago. Also included is clearing up misconceptions that neanderthal were stupid, had poor technology, etc.
[video=youtube_share;ylOltHQGkw8]https://youtu.be/ylOltHQGkw8[/video]

 

[indiucky]

They did a test of their tools compared to ours and although more crude they were way more efficient....Interesting....

 

[finnegan]

They were making pitch in eggshells surrounded by tiny clay furnaces before we were. That's amazing.

 

[indiucky]

They were making pitch in eggshells surrounded by tiny clay furnaces before we were. That's amazing.

Specialized tools.....

Neanderthal tools....^ Modern human tools....^

 

[finnegan]

Being that Neanderthals were considerably stronger and their prey quite robust, it makes sense that their tools would be advanced as they needed to be while being beefy enough to take on cave bears and other Ice Age fauna. What's also interesting is that their brains were of similar size with the visual cortex being beefed up. Pretty neat stuff.

 

[finnegan]

New academic evidence for an impact approx 12,800 years ago, this time from South America. Now that people are looking, it seems that the evidence is pointing more and more in favor of the hypothesis. (Link is to the paper from www.nature.com highlighted for emphasis, video is a summary/ comment on it.)

http://www.unchartedx.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/s41598-018-38089-y-marked-up.pdf

[video=youtube;nPOlomFhehQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPOlomFhehQ[/video]

 

[NKBJ]

When uniformitarianism became an ideologically driven cult in support of the science versus bible narrative it created a schism where none was warranted. Ever so slowly findings are gaining acceptance that catastrophic events have repeated changed the course of life on Earth; moments of devastation punctuating the slow turn of the solar and planetary cycles. And oh happy days, the various ideologically driven misinterpretations of scripture can fall by the wayside as well. The people driven to deny the events recorded in mankind's ancient stories will do what they have to do but the truth still comes out. Who knows but perhaps the all the false paradigms, including Darwinian evolutionists, ancient alienists and young Earth creationists, will be shamed into silence and we get the straight skinny on whodunnit.