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  • hornadylnl

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    Apparently to influence the system you must first go out of your way to make sure the system doesn't have to account for you.

    Or you can take your seat at the table knowing you will never get served. A colored stood a better chance of being served in a 1950's country club. Both parties are in collusion to keep the libertarian voices silenced.
     

    rambone

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    Ann Coulter: Liberal Cheerleader
    Coulter believes conservatives are just going to rally around Mitt Romney. Did she go to sleep four years ago and miss the Tea Party?

    Perhaps Ann Coulter has been hanging out in New York City far too long. Maybe she’s been having dinner with Bill Maher one too many times. Who knows, but she should realize that her hero Chris Christie is not a conservative and Mitt Romney is a flat out liberal. His only claim to being a credible candidate is the claim he is the most “electable.” Where have we heard that before? Oh yes, John McCain was electable. Bob Dole was electable. Every time we listen to the establishment and pick someone who is electable or someone who will attract Democrats and independents, we lose!

    You would think by now, someone as smart as Ann Coulter could figure that out.

    Unfortunately Ann Coulter is drinking the establishment kool-aid.

    For someone who has made a living as a conservative author, you would think she would understand conservatives.

    She does not understand conservatives because she is not one of us. Unfortunately, she supports a milktoast Republican candidate. He is a Republican conservatives will not vote for.

    For those of us who have enjoyed her works in the past, it is very sad to see her cheering for the liberals.
     

    hornadylnl

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    When the times comes, we all will just have to take the mark so we can sit at the table of commerce, right?
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    RomneyCare was never a "darling of Libertarian thought."

    Ummm, yeah Romneycare was the darliing of Libertarian thought. It was Reason magazine pimping Romneycare just a few years ago. I remember it well and all this was orchard.:D:fogey:

    Libertarians care not what you do, as long as you do what they want you to do--like comply with the law to buy insurance.:D
     

    rambone

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    Ummm, yeah Romneycare was the darliing of Libertarian thought. It was Reason magazine pimping Romneycare just a few years ago. I remember it well and all this was orchard.:D:fogey:

    Libertarians care not what you do, as long as you do what they want you to do--like comply with the law to buy insurance.:D
    One author doesn't speak for Libertarianism. If that's what you believe then you don't understand the philosophy at all.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Yeah, and having an article espousing the mandatory purchased of insurance published in the Libertarian flagship magazine means nothing.:D

    Good old Reason magazine: leave us alone, but we get to tell you what to do!
     

    rambone

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    Yeah, and having an article espousing the mandatory purchased of insurance published in the Libertarian flagship magazine means nothing.:D

    Good old Reason magazine: leave us alone, but we get to tell you what to do!

    I guess we can assume Mitt Romney is the spokesman for Conservatism on gun control.
     

    J_Wales

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    What's the real beef with Obamacare? Many Republicans rant and rave about how bad it is, yet few (that I've seen anyway) are able to articulate what's so terrible about it.

    Is it simply because it's a Democrat program (except in MA), therefore Republicans are against it?

    Is it the mandatory requirement? If so, how does one address the problem of the "freeloaders" who take advantage of hospital emergency departments?

    Is it federal regulation of the insurance industry? There are some real horror stories with state regulations?

    What about Medicare and specifically part D? Our very own local pharmaceutical company gains from part D and subsequently pumps a lot of money into the local economy.

    I am not trying to defend or condemn anything, but would like to hear why people are so up in arms.

    "To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."
    -Jefferson
     

    dross

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    Or you can take your seat at the table knowing you will never get served. A colored stood a better chance of being served in a 1950's country club. Both parties are in collusion to keep the libertarian voices silenced.

    I really don't believe that's true. Libertarian thinking is completely opposed to everything in the Democrat platform. Many of the Republican thinking side of the equation are very libertarian, but the political wing knows they can't win that way. It's ironclad thinking that you need the social conservatives to win, and that's been true. Unfortunately the Carl Roves and the Dick Morrises who are not ideological believe that to win the swing middle you have to throw money at people - "compassionate conservatism."

    As I've written here before, I think Ron Paul could strike a huge blow. Continue to campaign, let it be known that he will endorse a candidate or denounce one or both and threaten a third party run. Make the candidates take us into account.

    The problem with dragging the guys who have a chance to win to throw us some bones, we have to dance after we've been courted. If they know there's nothing they can do to get us to the polls because we won't vote for a Romney or a Santorum no matter what, we drive them more towards socialism, where the votes are.

    Libertarians are and have always been terrible at politics. It's not an ideological game, it's a socialist game at it's core and it's not going to be something else.

    I say this in all seriousness - you guys that are young enough, the best thing you can do based on your stated beliefs is to find somewhere else to live. It's just not going to be what you want here. Band together and buy an island. I'd like to see your island in 100 years, though. Bet it will have already started floating towards socialism.
     

    hornadylnl

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    I really don't believe that's true. Libertarian thinking is completely opposed to everything in the Democrat platform. Many of the Republican thinking side of the equation are very libertarian, but the political wing knows they can't win that way. It's ironclad thinking that you need the social conservatives to win, and that's been true. Unfortunately the Carl Roves and the Dick Morrises who are not ideological believe that to win the swing middle you have to throw money at people - "compassionate conservatism."

    As I've written here before, I think Ron Paul could strike a huge blow. Continue to campaign, let it be known that he will endorse a candidate or denounce one or both and threaten a third party run. Make the candidates take us into account.

    The problem with dragging the guys who have a chance to win to throw us some bones, we have to dance after we've been courted. If they know there's nothing they can do to get us to the polls because we won't vote for a Romney or a Santorum no matter what, we drive them more towards socialism, where the votes are.

    Libertarians are and have always been terrible at politics. It's not an ideological game, it's a socialist game at it's core and it's not going to be something else.

    I say this in all seriousness - you guys that are young enough, the best thing you can do based on your stated beliefs is to find somewhere else to live. It's just not going to be what you want here. Band together and buy an island. I'd like to see your island in 100 years, though. Bet it will have already started floating towards socialism.

    On Galt's Island, we'll just vote the socialists off the island. Nah, so long as the government of that island stays afloat while I'm alive, what do I care if the future generations must suffer through my compromises?

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” — Thomas Jefferson
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    I guess we can assume Mitt Romney is the spokesman for Conservatism on gun control.

    What magazine does Mitt Romney publish?

    Reason is published by Libertarians, 8th grade Libertarians (remember, Orville Fabus *snicker*), but Libertarians none the less.
     
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