'TikTok Door Kick Challenge'

[Route 45]

Ohio. No charges.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Every time I hear about the latest Tik-Tok challenge, the more my inner Red Foreman comes out.

 

[Mgderf]

Why do I get the idea that this could be a liberal plant to try to get people shot, therefore giving "credence" to their gun control arguement(s).

 

[Michigan Slim]

Why do I get the idea that this could be a liberal plant to try to get people shot, therefore giving "credence" to their gun control arguement(s).

That's fine. The dumbashes still get taken out of the gene pool.

 

[10mm]

Hypothetical... If someone was kicking at my front door, and I were to go out the back door, circle around and catch them in the act, would I be within my rights to shoot them?

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure in Indiana you can protect your property with lethal force. Compounding factors would be: multiple assailants, reasonable suspicion that they're their to cause harm to your property or person, it's night time, the level of aggression they're putting forth.

 

[BigRed]

That's fine. The dumbashes still get taken out of the gene pool.

Indeed. Let Darwin work!

 

[10mm]

Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

 

[Cameramonkey]

But what if DoggyMama was inside, and I wanted to protect her, while drawing any possible return fire away from her? I know it's a stretch. Just idle ponderings...

If your aim is true through that door, there will be no return fire. Just sayin.

And keep her away from you inside the house. She should be as far away as possible in a bedroom closet, bathroom, or ideally, the basement.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

If your aim is true through that door, there will be no return fire. Just sayin.

I already said I didn't want to mess up the door! That's why I'd want to be outside.

 

[Alamo]

Ohio. No charges.

This incident went beyond kicking or pounding on the door. The stupid intruder broke the door frame.

In the calm of this particular moment I wouldn't recommend shooting at scary noises on the other side of the door unless additional threat information was present, like the guy in the Dallas (I think) apartment who could see via his camera that the door kickers were armed.

A not-so-carefully curated selection of door kicking and knocking:

State Trooper Who Was Shot Says He Was Trying to Stop Reckless Driver

A state trooper who was shot in North Fort Worth in April says he started chasing a man because he was driving recklessly, speeding, and weaving in and out of traffic, according to a Texas Rangers report.

www.nbcdfw.com

In this one, a grand jury no-billed a homeowner who shot a plainclothes state trooper thru the door after the trooper followed the shooter home following a roadrage incident.

Man may have been breaking into home when 14-year-old shot him to death, HCSO says

The boy, who was home alone, reportedly grabbed a pistol when he noticed someone messing with the door. "Ironically, there is a sign on the gate that basically says that... 'Intruders will be met with force,'" Sheriff Gonzalez said.

abc13.com

Florida woman who shot Black neighbor through door won't face murder charge

The state attorney says his office determined there was insufficient evidence to file a murder charge in the death of a woman fatally shot through a door. She is charged with manslaughter.

www.cbsnews.com

Ralph Yarl: Andrew Lester charged with shooting boy who rang wrong doorbell

There was a "racial component" to the white homeowner's shooting of the black teen, a prosecutor says.

www.bbc.com

Scot shot dead on trip to US

AN Aberdeen businessman was shot and killed by a homeowner in Houston,

www.heraldscotland.com

Off-duty Texas trooper shoots neighbor through closed door, fearing he was intruder: cops

An off-duty Texas state trooper shot a neighbor through his closed apartment door when he mistook the man for an intruder early Monday morning.

nypost.com

I have read of several others in Texas that aren’t coming up on the first search page, including one in my local town. They usually fall into one of two groups: real home invaders, and people who have obliterated their reasoning functions via self-inflicted chemicals and think they’re breaking into their own houses.

Tick-tock games seem to be massively stupid.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Ohio. No charges.

His aim was 8" high or low, depending. (hits on shoulders it appears)

So I give it a 8 out of 10.

I already said I didn't want to mess up the door! That's why I'd want to be outside.

If he's trying to kick your door in, its already messed up. And if you try to flank him, overpenetration is just gonna mess up the door, brickwork, siding, etc. Or even your neighbor's stuff. Which would be even more expensive. Door is already toast from the idiot's kicking, so stay inside and keep the damage confined to JUST the door. It will be cheaper that way.

I'm a problem solver.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm a problem solver.

And a wet blanket.

 

[BigRed]

If they make it to the door, there has already been a series of failures.

 

[WebSnyper]

And keep her away from you inside the house. She should be as far away as possible in a bedroom closet, bathroom, or ideally, the basement.

What if your wife already does this? Asking for a friend.

 

[WebSnyper]

And keep her away from you inside the house. She should be as far away as possible in a bedroom closet, bathroom, or ideally, the basement.

This also came to mind

 

[Indyhd]

I already said I didn't want to mess up the door! That's why I'd want to be outside.

This is exactly why God created caulkers and drywall finishers. Just to fix the stuff we screw up.

 

[foszoe]

Hypothetical... If someone was kicking at my front door, and I were to go out the back door, circle around and catch them in the act, would I be within my rights to shoot them?

Wait til they turn and charge you

 

[deo62]

Good thing my dogs can’t read

 

[KellyinAvon]

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure in Indiana you can protect your property with lethal force. Compounding factors would be: multiple assailants, reasonable suspicion that they're their to cause harm to your property or person, it's night time, the level of aggression they're putting forth.

IANAL (I am not a lawyer) but this is not correct. (Paraphrasing here) Use of force (including deadly force) is authorized to prevent or terminate the unlawful entry into a domicile, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicle. This is what's known as Castle Doctrine.

Outside of where Castle Doctrine applies, the self-defense statute states deadly force is authorized to prevent loss of life, serious bodily injury, a forcible felony, hijacking of an aircraft.

Unlawful force can be met with equivalent force.

In some States you can "shoot people to protect your stuff." Indiana is not one of them.

Don't get me started on Nantz v State 2001.

 

[1nderbeard]

Hypothetical... If someone was kicking at my front door, and I were to go out the back door, circle around and catch them in the act, would I be within my rights to shoot them?

not at attorney, but I can see a prosecutor asking you why you didn't just run away. Assuming you live alone. If you had a loved one inside I see no problem with it, though I think it's not sound strategy to leave them alone inside while you're outside.
If you stayed in the house and even shot through the door I think you'd be good.