TN state park OC trouble

[samot]

Just wondering what you guys thoughts were on this guy OCing an AK pistol in a TN state park. I guess he was trying to see what the rollers would think of it.
I dont think it is a proper way to help our 2nd amendment, or our handgun laws.
Heres the news clip
YouTube - tennessee park radnor lake open carry draco romanian AK47 ak-47 pistol 12-20-2009

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

That dude was all over GlockTalk talking about his upcoming jaunt...

-J-

 

[public servant]

I think the manner in which he presented his case could have been handled differently. I don't think dressing like Rambo and marching around the park is the proper way.

I don't have a problem with people that attempt to change things in a lawful manner...but they need to use means that don't draw negative attention to the cause. Win their hearts and minds... Present yourself as being educated and knowledgeable...rather than as some redneck hill-jack just out to stir the pot.

 

[sporter]

Guy was an idiot. He was banned over at ARFcom for some shenanigans.

 

[cce1302]

Wow. Now that they have said basically that their only complaint is that it was a "sawed-off AK47" (whatever that is) then I'm sure they won't have a problem with tennesseegunowners.com's open carry walk, in which all those who own them will be carrying their AR-type pistols, FN57s, and lots of cop-killer hollowpoint bullets.

 

[lawrra]

Guy was an idiot. He was banned over at ARFcom for some shenanigans.

Next person who says shenanigans gets pistol whipped

 

[TopDog]

Aye sionnachuighm it be, true enough.

 

[AJBB87]

Next person who says shenanigans gets pistol whipped

Hey Farva! Whats that place where they have all the goofy **** on the walls?

 

[Archbishop]

Next person who says shenanigans gets pistol whipped

Hey what's the name of the place where you like to eat? Where they have all that stuff on the walls.....

 

[Scutter01]

Hey Farva! Whats that place where they have all the goofy **** on the walls?

 

[HandK]

I think the manner in which he presented his case could have been handled differently. I don't think dressing like Rambo and marching around the park is the proper way.

I don't have a problem with people that attempt to change things in a lawful manner...but they need to use means that don't draw negative attention to the cause. Win their hearts and minds... Present yourself as being educated and knowledgeable...rather than as some redneck hill-jack just out to stir the pot.

Tried to rep ya but you know!! very well said!!

 

[JohnP82]

i agree he could have handled himself differently. this just gives them fuel to spin the story in any way they wish and make guns look bad. the problem i have is that i think his intentions for doing this were wrong.

 

[SMiller]

Oh shenanigans...




Best movie ever! Well top 20 anyways.

 

[UnionPmedic]

The guy with two posts to his name (including this one) is going to weigh in. This sounds very much like "loud pipes save lives" vs. "loud pipes loose rights" in the motorcycle world.

I believe in loud pipes, but I don't run straight headers either.

I support the right to open carry, but sometimes it can go to far...

 

[public servant]

 

[Astrocreep]

Don't we just love how the media seeks out the morons in the firearms crowd to 'represent the average gun owner'?! Such daring and hard-hitting journalism is sure to get these rubes promoted.

Seriously? A sawn-off AK? That would be hilarious.
From 'minute-of-soldier' accuracy to 'minute-of-houseboat' accuracy with just a few hacksaw strokes!

Best way to handle this situation? Ignore it.

 

[Beau]

I think the manner in which he presented his case could have been handled differently. I don't think dressing like Rambo and marching around the park is the proper way.

I don't have a problem with people that attempt to change things in a lawful manner...but they need to use means that don't draw negative attention to the cause. Win their hearts and minds... Present yourself as being educated and knowledgeable...rather than as some redneck hill-jack just out to stir the pot.

I've read his posts regarding this. He was dressed in hiking boots, a knit cap and a camo jacket. Don't see how that qualifies as military dress. He also wasn't trying to change anything. The laws making what he did legal are already in place.

Wow. Now that they have said basically that their only complaint is that it was a "sawed-off AK47" (whatever that is) then I'm sure they won't have a problem with tennesseegunowners.com's open carry walk, in which all those who own them will be carrying their AR-type pistols, FN57s, and lots of cop-killer hollowpoint bullets.

The weapon he was carrying is in fact a pistol. He bought it that way from the manufactorer. I think the only change he made was to add a sling.

I think most people are missing the point and focusing to much on what he was carrying when this is really about the fact that he was carrying. Yes I imagine an AK pistol would look scary to some people. But this could have happened just as easily had he been carrying a Glock,S&W, Kimber or whatever.

The problem here is that he was detained at gunpoint by a second officer after he had been released by the first officer that stopped him. He was held for 2 1/2 hours. Way longer than it takes to determine that he was legal. The second officer who stopped him at gunpoint has talked with this person before regarding carry laws. The officer knew he was licensed to carry and that he carried regularly while walking the trails.

You guys can sit here all day and say stuff like he didn't need to be carrying that type of pistol, or there is no reason for it. That's the same talk that has brought about magazine capacity restrictions, unloaded carry, weapons bans etc. etc...

While it may not be my choice or yours to openly carry that type of firearm in public I fully support his decision to do so if he so wishes. What hurts our rights more? Him carrying his AK pistol or other 2A supporters bashing him for doing what is legal and giving the anti crowd more ammo to use in their endless pursuit to ban all things that go boom? After all if other gun owners are against it then it must be bad and should be made illegal.

 

[mrjarrell]

David Codrea had something to say about this, too. His article has links to a couple of other forums where there's some discussion and a first hand account. The comment from the "person" at Officer.com is rather inflammatory, but to be expected from what I've seen of the members there.

While his weapon of choice might not be mine, I support the guys right to carry it. He broke no laws and last time I looked "keep and bear arms" didn't have unConstitutional and immoral qualifications on it.

 

[theweakerbrother]

What hurts our rights more? Him carrying his AK pistol or other 2A supporters bashing him for doing what is legal and giving the anti crowd more ammo to use in their endless pursuit to ban all things that go boom? After all if other gun owners are against it then it must be bad and should be made illegal.

No kidding. He didn't break any laws. Which is less tactful? Carrying an AK-style pistol in a park where it is legal or catering to the whimpering of soccer moms?

 

[samot]

While it may not be my choice or yours to openly carry that type of firearm in public I fully support his decision to do so if he so wishes. What hurts our rights more? Him carrying his AK pistol or other 2A supporters bashing him for doing what is legal and giving the anti crowd more ammo to use in their endless pursuit to ban all things that go boom? After all if other gun owners are against it then it must be bad and should be made illegal.[/SIZE]

Good point! I agree!