-
Be sure to read this post! Beware of scammers. https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/classifieds-new-online-payment-guidelines-rules-paypal-venmo-zelle-etc.511734/
Transferable FN-FAL
- Thread starter 338sniper
- Start date
The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana
Member Benefits:
Fewer Ads! Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas View up to date on firearm-related events Share photos & video with other members ...and so much more!
Member Benefits:
Machine gun price guide states fn fal price range listed around 14-15k
Machine Guns - Machine Gun Price Guide
you some times see them pop up on Subguns.com and sturm
Machine Guns - Machine Gun Price Guide
you some times see them pop up on Subguns.com and sturm
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
- Apr 30, 2008
- 16,576
- 48
The Right Hand of Freedom!
You could do a lot worse than an FAL, that's for sure.
Good luck on your quest!
-J-
You could do a lot worse than an FAL, that's for sure.
Good luck on your quest!
-J-
Last edited:
YoungMilsurpGuy
Sharpshooter
werent most FALs made to be semi auto only when they were actually issued
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
- Apr 30, 2008
- 16,576
- 48
I can't cite this, but my presumption:
I'd go out on a limb and say that semi-auto main battle rifles are the exception to the rule. M1-Garand being a quite notable exception.
-J-
Indy_Guy_77
Grandmaster
- Apr 30, 2008
- 16,576
- 48
Eh, those are just FALs. ;-)
The answer to your first question is no, no one knows how many FN FAL's are in the registry. For that matter no one knows how many of any machinegun or other NFA are there. The info is tax data to start with so you can't legally search it. Even if you could search it the registry is so scattered and messed up that you'd never be able to figure out how many of what types there are. So now with that out of the way....to give you a partial answer that is accurate. There were a number of G series FALs imported back in the 60's. These guns had upper receivers that were cut for the safety sear (what uninformed people call an auto sear). The sears weren't installed and BATF listed these guns by serial number as being ok to own even though the regs which were enacted in 1968 said if its readily convertible its an MG. Apparently there was another batch of these approved either before or after the G series guns. Prior to 1986 and the mcclure volkmer act that prohibited the manufacture of new MG's for civvies a goodly number of these G series FALs were registered. In addition to them a fairly good quantity of other FAL's from Belgium, Austria, Brazil, England, Australia and India were imported as semi's. Many of them were converted and registered prior to 86 as well. I've seen about 100 different guns myself that have been sold over the years so there are a reasonable number out there if you're looking for a transferable. I've seen recent pricing vary from $10-15K. The machinegun price guide seems to be ok but on stuff that doesn't sell often its frequently off. A lot of guns aren't sold on gunboards or in shops and actual selling prices vary a lot sometimes from the advertised price.
One last little note on NFA stuff. Guns are not on forms. If I have something transferred from another dealer to my FFL/SOT it will transfer on a form 3 whether its a transferable, a pre-may dealer sample or a post may sample. If it comes from an individual it will be tax paid on a form 4. This is true even if the gun is a pre may sample. Pre-may samples can be kept by an FFL/SOT when he gives up his license but they don't become transferable. If the FFL gives up his license then he is no longer able to transfer firearms tax free...he is required to use the form 4 tax paid. It is also possible to transfer a post may dealer sample MG from the manufacturer to an FFL/SOT on a form 4 tax paid. The dealer pays the $200 tax and the excise tax of 11% doesn't need to be paid. (This is only true of the first transfer from the Mfg where the excise or transfer tax would be due.)
There is also the form 5 which is used for tax exempt transfers from or to a govt agency for either an individual or dealer, it can be used to transfer deactivated firearms tax free and has other uses.
The whole point of this little dissertation is to point out that a form 4 gun is a meaningless term. Any type of NFA can be transferred with just about any of the forms available and the form you use depends on who is involved in the transfer, not on whether the item is transferable. This isn't meant as a jab or to pick on you....just to inform. If you don't work in the industry its not obvious. Sometimes even those who do work in the industry are unaware.
Frank
One last little note on NFA stuff. Guns are not on forms. If I have something transferred from another dealer to my FFL/SOT it will transfer on a form 3 whether its a transferable, a pre-may dealer sample or a post may sample. If it comes from an individual it will be tax paid on a form 4. This is true even if the gun is a pre may sample. Pre-may samples can be kept by an FFL/SOT when he gives up his license but they don't become transferable. If the FFL gives up his license then he is no longer able to transfer firearms tax free...he is required to use the form 4 tax paid. It is also possible to transfer a post may dealer sample MG from the manufacturer to an FFL/SOT on a form 4 tax paid. The dealer pays the $200 tax and the excise tax of 11% doesn't need to be paid. (This is only true of the first transfer from the Mfg where the excise or transfer tax would be due.)
There is also the form 5 which is used for tax exempt transfers from or to a govt agency for either an individual or dealer, it can be used to transfer deactivated firearms tax free and has other uses.
The whole point of this little dissertation is to point out that a form 4 gun is a meaningless term. Any type of NFA can be transferred with just about any of the forms available and the form you use depends on who is involved in the transfer, not on whether the item is transferable. This isn't meant as a jab or to pick on you....just to inform. If you don't work in the industry its not obvious. Sometimes even those who do work in the industry are unaware.
Frank
