Trump caves

[CampingJosh]

The obverse would also be true, as long as CampingJosh doesn't mind being stared at by dogs who believe all humans exist primarily to give them the treats hidden in their pockets

I'm glad to know that you would be comfortable in such a situation. That's how I live, too.

 

[Kutnupe14]

There are verifiable payments and very large payments at that two offshore accounts that can verifiably be traced back 2 prominent Democrat holders. The bottom line is the Mexican and Colombian drug cartels own the Democrat Party that is why they are so opposed to the wall. Think this sounds like conspiracy theory well research it first before you make that judgment

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It certainly does sound like a conspiracy theory. If the democrats are socialism/communists, how are they, at the same time involved in the ultimate free market enterprise; the drug trade? I would be interested to see any information you have concerning such.

 

[BugI02]

You are forgetting that the ideals of socialism and capitalism are both perverted at will by groups intent on achieving and retaining power and wealth - the systems just result in selection of differing groups that hold the power

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

It certainly does sound like a conspiracy theory. If the democrats are socialism/communists, how are they, at the same time involved in the ultimate free market enterprise; the drug trade? I would be interested to see any information you have concerning such.

Your overlooking socialism is only not free market for the subjects. The buearocrats are involved in every free market opportunity they choose. They have they say in what we do but do as they desire.

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[josh64]

I feel that anyone who hires criminal aliens aka illegals should be arrested, charged, and imprisoned. The presence of the criminal aliens and the business owners who hire them comes at the loss of good paying American jobs. It's result is the home construction/repair business swirling the drain. Also, have you ever looked at the quality of work done by criminal aliens?

Good day to all ingos.

 

[JettaKnight]

I feel that anyone who hires criminal aliens aka illegals should be arrested, charged, and imprisoned.

Indeed - kill off the demand.

It's result is the home construction/repair business swirling the drain.

Seems to me that market is booming.

Also, have you ever looked at the quality of work done by criminal aliens?

Have you seen how ****ty my drywall skills are? Clearly Caucasian.

 

[josh64]

Indeed - kill off the demand.


Seems to me that market is booming.

Have you seen how ****ty my drywall skills are? Clearly Caucasian.

What I meant by construction business swirling the drain is the ever decreasing number of employers that pay a living wage, unlike the ones that pay a pittance to criminal aliens who live 30 to a box. Also I'll take your word on your drywall skills, at that skill level you should be able to comfortably fit in with any alien criminal drywall crew.

 

[churchmouse]

What I meant by construction business swirling the drain is the ever decreasing number of employers that pay a living wage, unlike the ones that pay a pittance to criminal aliens who live 30 to a box. Also I'll take your word on your drywall skills, at that skill level you should be able to comfortably fit in with any alien criminal drywall crew.

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

I feel that anyone who hires criminal aliens aka illegals should be arrested, charged, and imprisoned. The presence of the criminal aliens and the business owners who hire them comes at the loss of good paying American jobs. It's result is the home construction/repair business swirling the drain. Also, have you ever looked at the quality of work done by criminal aliens?

Good day to all ingos.

Can't argue with that. I feel hiring illegals is intentionally helping undermind the economic well being of the citizen.. I feel the same way about exporting jobs to exploit cheap labor. It is being done at the expense of the overall American economy. They argue that it makes the product cheaper but what good is a cheaper product if you don't have a job or money to buy it. I'm not completely against helping other nations but I am against it as long as there is the need here.

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[josh64]

Can't argue with that. I feel hiring illegals is intentionally helping undermind the economic well being of the citizen.. I feel the same way about exporting jobs to exploit cheap labor. It is being done at the expense of the overall American economy. They argue that it makes the product cheaper but what good is a cheaper product if you don't have a job or money to buy it. I'm not completely against helping other nations but I am against it as long as there is the need here.

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I think you just touched upon their endgame scenario here;
"They argue that it makes the product cheaper but what good is a cheaper product if you don't have a job or money to buy it."

 

[amboy49]

It certainly does sound like a conspiracy theory. If the democrats are socialism/communists, how are they, at the same time involved in the ultimate free market enterprise; the drug trade? I would be interested to see any information you have concerning such.

I have no specific information to provide re: proof the Democrats are complicit in the success of the drug trade. However, your description of the drug cartels as exhibiting the “ultimate free market enterprise” intrigues me. Based on your interpretation apparently ultimate free market enterprise includes gang wars, cartel monopolies of product and inventory, unbridled crime to include money laundering, murder, extortion, bribery, and any other number of illegal elements. This is what you consider ultimate free market enterprise ? Would not be my example of the poster child for same.

To posit a theory, perhaps the Democrats view the drug trade as a minor inconvenience of the ability to allow unrestricted illegal immigration. I don’t think it’s a stretch to state that a huge majority of immigrants vote for Democrat candidates in all of the elections from local school board to POTUS.

 

[CampingJosh]

Also, have you ever looked at the quality of work done by criminal aliens?

People trained in Latin America do the best concrete work.

 

[NKBJ]

I have no specific information to provide re: proof the Democrats are complicit in the success of the drug trade. However, your description of the drug cartels as exhibiting the “ultimate free market enterprise” intrigues me. Based on your interpretation apparently ultimate free market enterprise includes gang wars, cartel monopolies of product and inventory, unbridled crime to include money laundering, murder, extortion, bribery, and any other number of illegal elements. This is what you consider ultimate free market enterprise ? Would not be my example of the poster child for same.

To posit a theory, perhaps the Democrats view the drug trade as a minor inconvenience of the ability to allow unrestricted illegal immigration. I don’t think it’s a stretch to state that a huge majority of immigrants vote for Democrat candidates in all of the elections from local school board to POTUS.

Big banks, politicians, law enforcement, intel agencies, military; they're all human and none are exempt from the systemic corruption. Look at the opium coming out of Southeast Asia during the Vietnam war. Look at the 1980's with the coke and arms trade financing and resupply operations in support of conflicts in Central America. Look at Afghanistan now. It's the same old op over and over again. We march into South America now and we'll have a new coke problem for when Afghanistan winds down.
Yeehah.

 

[Mongo59]

People trained in Latin America do the best concrete work.

Is this the "what does a fat woman and a cinder block have in common" joke?

 

[Kutnupe14]

I have no specific information to provide re: proof the Democrats are complicit in the success of the drug trade. However, your description of the drug cartels as exhibiting the “ultimate free market enterprise” intrigues me. Based on your interpretation apparently ultimate free market enterprise includes gang wars, cartel monopolies of product and inventory, unbridled crime to include money laundering, murder, extortion, bribery, and any other number of illegal elements. This is what you consider ultimate free market enterprise ? Would not be my example of the poster child for same.

To posit a theory, perhaps the Democrats view the drug trade as a minor inconvenience of the ability to allow unrestricted illegal immigration. I don’t think it’s a stretch to state that a huge majority of immigrants vote for Democrat candidates in all of the elections from local school board to POTUS.

Free trade is essentially, you have it, I want it, lets make a deal excluding government interference.

 

[indyartisan]

https://youtu.be/upBWWm86PXU

 

[TangoFoxtrot]

Free trade is essentially, you have it, I want it, lets make a deal excluding government interference.

Do you want free trade even if it means selling out our sovereignty?? That's not a attack, it's just a question.

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[NKBJ]

The idea is that you create unencumbered international trade and the governments follow, get joined together and then presto chango you gots your global government.

It's like a single cell. Without a cell wall, without the membrane barrier to control what comes in and goes out... all you have is slime.

 

[amboy49]

Free trade is essentially, you have it, I want it, lets make a deal excluding government interference.

You initially commented on free enterprise and then gave the example of the drug trade. I would submit that the phrase “drug trade” is far from a trade. The drug problem in this country is hardly what could be referred to in any reasonable business plan unless you believe the importers should implement killing all of their competition, bribing law enforcement, and paying off politicians to be part part of a normal business plan.

 

[traderdan]

Quote Originally Posted by traderdan View Post
Been watching politics for many years. I know this. If you will be honest though....those checks and balances have been bypassed by every president in history, and every congress in history. The creation of the swamp of departments and bureaucracies has bypassed the original intent of the Founders of our nation.
Ah yes, the old, "They break the law and walk on the Constitution, so we should too." That runs afoul of everything my father (and mentors) taught me.

This is a national crisis beyond the scope of the knowledge of most Americans. Build a wall Mr President!
You say that, but how is that if "most Americans" can't comprehend it, how do you have a lock on the truth? Serious question - how exactly do you know the truth that so many Americans are oblivious to?
When in a fight, (and we are, for survival as a nation)...not a sporting contest, one must use tactics available to defend against the tactics of the enemy. POTUS is able to fund in times of emergency. He should. I have lived on the southern border, I have traveled in Europe. We must control our borders. I really believe it is too late. But I hope I am wrong.