U.S. Homicide Rate Hits 51-year Low as Gun Ownership Increased 141%

[edporch]

Mass Shooting Myth -- U.S. Homicide Rate Hits 51-year Low as Gun Ownership Increased 141%

 

[clelaj]

The left never let the facts get in the way of using any crisis to further their agenda

 

[Leadeye]

Strange, big media said nothing about this. They did feature Ed Delany foaming at the mouth over the lack of new gun control laws.

 

[david890]

Causation or correlation??

Also, the article is misleading. There are no stats for the rate of mass shootings (as defined by the FBI) over that time period, nor stats about crimes committed with firearms.

 

[youngda9]

Ya'll need to put the homicide rate chart on yer facebook and twitter pages. That tells the whole story right there.

There are a lot of charts in this link that tell quite the story as well. I'll leave it to you to figure it out: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

 

[boostjunki]

Ya'll need to put the homicide rate chart on yer facebook and twitter pages. That tells the whole story right there.

There are a lot of charts in this link that tell quite the story as well. I'll leave it to you to figure it out: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

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"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Some minds are so steadfast in their belief that nothing will change their opinions. Zealots but without the religion.

 

[Tactically Fat]

Zealots but without the religion.

That last sentence is almost arguable. There are plenty of people who worship at the altar of Government...

 

[foszoe]

Could anything change your mind about that?

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Some minds are so steadfast in their belief that nothing will change their opinions. Zealots but without the religion.

 

[david890]

Ya'll need to put the homicide rate chart on yer facebook and twitter pages. That tells the whole story right there.

There are a lot of charts in this link that tell quite the story as well. I'll leave it to you to figure it out: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

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Page 137. Homicide by guns (all types) in 1976: 11,979. In 2005, 11,346.

So, it would seem HOMICIDE BY FIREARM hasn't dropped 51%. Homicide by other means has dropped considerably, but homicide by firearm is still a significant problem.

 

[david890]

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink." Some minds are so steadfast in their belief that nothing will change their opinions. Zealots but without the religion.

"Zealot" originally referred to members of an ancient Jewish sect who resisted the Romans at Masada in 70 AD. When the Romans finally breached the walls, all of the Zealots had committed suicide rather than be taken prisoner! Religion was the BASIS of their "zealotry"!

 

[david890]

I mentioned "causation or correlation" in reference to the book, "Freakonomics". In it, the authors argued that the drop in crime that began around 1991 was due more likely to the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion than any other cause. Quite simply, kids who would have been committing crime (as adults) beginning in 1991, had been aborted! So, no crime from them (nor those aborted after them).

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I mentioned "causation or correlation" in reference to the book, "Freakonomics". In it, the authors argued that the drop in crime that began around 1991 was due more likely to the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion than any other cause. Quite simply, kids who would have been committing crime (as adults) beginning in 1991, had been aborted! So, no crime from them (nor those aborted after them).

Wow. Just... wow. So now you're advocating abortion as a way to reduce crime. Well yeah, I guess if every single pregnancy ended in abortion pretty soon there would be no one left to commit crimes. Brilliant strategy there.

 

[Denny347]

Mass Shooting Myth -- U.S. Homicide Rate Hits 51-year Low as Gun Ownership Increased 141%

Yet Indy homicide rate is at a all time high with a high number of gun owners and very favorable gun laws. Not everything is as it seems.

 

[Tanfodude]

Yet Indy homicide rate is at a all time high with a high number of gun owners and very favorable gun laws. Not everything is as it seems.

Where are we at now?

But you already know that the increase legal gun ownership and the homicide rate aren't directly related.

 

[Denny347]

Where are we at now?

But you already know that the increase legal gun ownership and the homicide rate aren't directly related.

Oh, I know. I have no idea what the number is right now. I think it is lower so far than last year but that is a pretty low bar. Until we address the WILL to harm other people, this will never get better.

 

[VN Vet]

Yet Indy homicide rate is at a all time high with a high number of gun owners and very favorable gun laws. Not everything is as it seems.

We have a Gang Problem here in Indy, not a gun problem. Pay attention on who is doing the killing, it's the thugs, drug dealers, just plain evil people.

 

[Denny347]

We have a Gang Problem here in Indy, not a gun problem. Pay attention on who is doing the killing, it's the thugs, drug dealers, just plain evil people.

Oh I know.

 

[david890]

Wow. Just... wow. So now you're advocating abortion as a way to reduce crime. Well yeah, I guess if every single pregnancy ended in abortion pretty soon there would be no one left to commit crimes. Brilliant strategy there.

Did *I* say that? Not at all. The authors suggested a correlation, not causation.

No, perhaps if every UNWANTED pregnancy ended in abortion, we'd have fewer kids in poverty, less child abuse, fewer kids growing up under-fed, under-housed and under-educated. However, I'm merely stating possible correlations, not causations. Big difference.

 

[david890]

Where are we at now?

But you already know that the increase legal gun ownership and the homicide rate aren't directly related.

Yet that is what the headline in the original post seems to suggest. Biased reporting. Bad journalism (if you can call it journalism).

 

[BE Mike]

I mentioned "causation or correlation" in reference to the book, "Freakonomics". In it, the authors argued that the drop in crime that began around 1991 was due more likely to the 1973 Roe vs. Wade ruling legalizing abortion than any other cause. Quite simply, kids who would have been committing crime (as adults) beginning in 1991, had been aborted! So, no crime from them (nor those aborted after them).

Wow, how Hitleristic!