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Tactical Dave
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E5RANGER375
Shooter
not news in my eyes. they did the smart thing, or would people have rather had the tax payers pay to ship them home? it was trash so they burned it. it wasnt done out of disrespect. whats the proper and dignified wat to retire a tattered flag? you burn it. I see no story here other than one of tollerance by the military. The group obviously never intended those books to be read by U.S. troops. they USED the U.S. military to further their own agendas. shame on them
Pretty much. They are there to fight, not proselytize.
Huh. I am a avid bible reader, but in the end its just words on paper. There is nothing 'sacred' or holy about the paper and print itself. The meaning of the words is the holy part.
I mean it still should be treated with respect, but I am not sure that burning isnt the proper way to dispose of a book.
I mean it still should be treated with respect, but I am not sure that burning isnt the proper way to dispose of a book.
My point was, and maybe I should have been more clear, if the military decides to burn Bibles. That's their decision. But don't be hypocritical. The General has no business commenting on some guy in Florida burning a koran,
while he's burning Bibles in Afganistan.
It's because the guy in FL wanted a big stink.
SavageEagle
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- Apr 27, 2008
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This. From the looks of things, a year ago, some church wanted to try to convert Afghans to Christianity. That's a dangerous game because it would turn the war there into sort of a Crusade of yesteryear. The military doesn't need that because we would lose ALL our so called allies in the middle east and else where.
The military made a good decision here. They weren't English Bibles either. They were written in Arabic.
I don't agree with your assessment. The Bibles were burned in order to keep them from being distributed by members of the military - who were not authorized to do so. As others have said, the military is there to perform a mission, not proselytize.
Like it or not, the policy is not to offend the Afghans if we can avoid it. This was avoiding it. The Pastor in Florida burning the Koran (I can never seem to spell it the same way twice in a row) is relevant because it is stirring resentment in an area where we're trying to build good will.
The first action aids in performing the mission, the second action hinders performing the mission, and that's why GEN Petraeous addressed it.
If that church wants to spread the word of Jesus they should go do it themselves, not expect the military to do it for them.
Sure he does. The koran burning will be used as a recruiting tool for the forces that he is supposed to defeat. If one guy in Afghanistan is sitting on the fence and sees this burning, then decides to bury an IED that kills an American, will it have been worth it?
Tactical Dave
Grandmaster
If he did not burn them people would get mad about the tax dollars being sent to send back Bibles that VERY few here could read...... or they do get passed out and it ends up on the news and the suicide attacks sky rocket and people get mad then........
The General knows that the Quran being burned will spark violence...... I am sure he also knows that Bibles being passed out will spark just as much violence..........
I am very religous and would rather see a Bible burned then thrown in the trash.......
The chruch should have sent Missionaries with bibles..... not try and get the millitary to do it... I am sure the church knows that if they sent people themselves chances are near 100% that they would get killed so why not try and get the people with guns to do it....
E5RANGER375
Shooter
SemperFiUSMC
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- Jun 23, 2009
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I agree that sending Bibles to Afganistan was dumb. Being that most Afgans can't read, and those that do don't read Arabic, I would have to says it's just dumb for dumb's sake, though.
I don't think burning a Quoran is helpful in anyway. But seriously, do you think there's actually a single guy in Afganistan thinking "Man if that crusader burns a book I'm gonna get really pissed and quit my job as a west-worshipping investment banker and do something about it"? Just one? It's a red herring argument.
Blue Tile Spook
Master
The bibles were printed in Farsi (sp?) and Dari, and yep, they do have a high illiteracy rate.
NordicHeathenVinlander
Shooter
I can see WHY the Military burned the books. But I do agree, it was entirely hypocritical for anyone in the Military to comment on a Koran burning.
However, let's dive deeper into this. In America, it is quite OK to discrimminate against Christians, pee on Jesus on TV (HBO program), halt for the first time in history stop Christian events which are supportive of The Military (CO recruitment, I believe).
Does anyone else see where Im going with, in terms of OK-Discrimmination?
However, let's dive deeper into this. In America, it is quite OK to discrimminate against Christians, pee on Jesus on TV (HBO program), halt for the first time in history stop Christian events which are supportive of The Military (CO recruitment, I believe).
Does anyone else see where Im going with, in terms of OK-Discrimmination?
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