Utah Permit Class - what is taught.

[singlesix]

I met a person, Indiana Resident, that carries a handgun and only has a Utah Permit. He said since Indiana recognizes the Utah Permit he doesn't need a Indiana Permit. I told him to look up the IC on carrying; I don't think he will. So I am wondering if this subject is covered in the Utah Permit Class? It has to be.

 

[ryknoll3]

It's not REQUIRED to be covered, since it IS a Utah class. In my Utah class, which was taught by Jim Floyd at DPG, they did mention that Indiana residents are required to have the Indiana LTCH to carry in Indiana. I think it would vary from course to course whether or not they mention it.

 

[minuteman32]

An IN LTCH is required for an IN resident ot carry in IN. If he is caught in IN w/o an IN LTCH, he will (most likely) be arrested & charged with carrying w/o a license. He will also have his UT CFP yanked, as soon as they find out he was arrested.

 

[mac45]

It wasn't mentioned when I took the class, but I took it in Illinois, (and was the only Indiana resident taking the class).

 

[cosermann]

I met a person ... So I am wondering if this subject is covered in the Utah Permit Class? It has to be.

It doesn't matter if it's covered or not (or whether this person was listening or not when/if it was covered, although I think/believe Jim mentioned it in the class I was in). This person is wrong regardless. To lawfully carry (except to/from place of purchase/repair/one's own business) an Indiana resident must have an Indiana LTCH regardless of what other licenses/permits he might have.

IC 35-47-2-21
Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states
Sec. 21. <clip>
(b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32.

Indiana Code 35-47-2

A UT CFP instructor may choose to cover this or not. It's not part of the UT specified curriclum. Amazingly enough, and as strange as it may seem the curriculum for a UT CFP covers UT-specific law. If an instructor wants to talk about Indiana law in the process, that's a bonus.

Here's the mandatory curriculum if you're interested:
http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/documents/TRANGUIDELINES_009.pdf

 

[singlesix]

Thanks for the information. I'll pass it along. I still have a feeling this guy isn't going to listen. I guess I would be well within my rights to ask him not to carry when is on our Gun Club Grounds. He is a member and carries on Club Grounds (as do other members). Since I know he is in violation of Indiana Code, should I just let it pass or inform him not to carry on Club Grounds?

 

[cosermann]

I'd raise the issue in general (not citing anyone specific) w/club officers. Some clubs educate their members about state law (and save their clubs from some 'awkward situations') by prohibiting handguns w/o a LTCH specifically in club rules.

Best wishes.