Vaccines and Autism

[hopper68]

Nothing to see here.

That's what she said!!!!

 

[hoosierdoc]

Not trolling at all, and not a sad story at all. It's a fantastic story that he's one of the dozen polio patients I've seen in 11 years. It's fantastic and worth celebrating.

I'm saying that many are looking at diseases that affect our society today and trash vaccines. Trying doing that fifty years ago when hospitals were full of kids with polio and dying from numerous other ailments. Damn diphtheria. Oh wait... Don't want to "troll" by mentioning horrific diseases that used to scourge our country that now most of us know nothing about.

Yes, bypass the reasoned discussion and tell a sad story.

Works well for the anti-gun crowd.

I've already addressed the polio vaccine here.

Since we're telling sad stories, has anyone here ever talked to the parents of a vaccine injured child with permanent brain damage and paralysis? They have a few things to say about the 'safe and effective' mantra.

 

[rhino]

The shingles vaccine can and does save a lot of people from some serious pain and suffering.

 

[steveh_131]

Not trolling at all, and not a sad story at all. It's a fantastic story that he's one of the dozen polio patients I've seen in 11 years. It's fantastic and worth celebrating.

It is a sad story. It's identical to a gun grabber putting a sad parent on television and using his sad story to push gun control.

I'm saying that many are looking at diseases that affect our society today and trash vaccines. Trying doing that fifty years ago when hospitals were full of kids with polio and dying from numerous other ailments. Damn diphtheria. Oh wait... Don't want to "troll" by mentioning horrific diseases that used to scourge our country that now most of us know nothing about.

Doc, do you really want to rehash the polio debate? You didn't fare too well in the last one. Your inconsistency in your thoughts on statistical correlation was completely exposed.

The shingles vaccine can and does save a lot of people from some serious pain and suffering.

Source?

 

[Alpo]

'tis a rare sight: a man unwilling to yield in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I think there is a name for that....

 

[steveh_131]

'tis a rare sight: a man unwilling to yield in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I think there is a name for that....

I'm the only one who bothers presenting evidence, so I assume you're not referring to me.

Also, it's not rare at all.

 

[Alpo]

No, confirmation bias is pretty common. So is belief in the absence of evidence. We call that: religion.

 

[steveh_131]

So is belief in the absence of evidence. We call that: religion.

Continuing to repeat that I have no evidence does not make it true.

I challenge you to point out one actual claim that I've made that wasn't backed by evidence.

 

[Alpo]

Sure....I'll put it on my to do list and give it the priority it deserves.

 

[steveh_131]

So it seemed like a top priority to come here and accuse me of believing things contrary to the evidence, but not a priority to see if your accusation is even true?

Alright.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I don't want to debate anything. I saw a guy with a now rare disease and added that perspective.

It is a sad story. It's identical to a gun grabber putting a sad parent on television and using his sad story to push gun control.



Doc, do you really want to rehash the polio debate? You didn't fare too well in the last one. Your inconsistency in your thoughts on statistical correlation was completely exposed.



Source?

 

[Alpo]

So it seemed like a top priority to come here and accuse me of believing things contrary to the evidence, but not a priority to see if your accusation is even true?

Alright.

It's not so much the claim that I dispute. It's the extrapolation and generalizations derived therefrom.

Not a big deal. It's too close to the holidays to be wrapped around the axle on this point. I thought the new information on a possible link to anti-depressants was newsworthy.

 

[hoosierdoc]

For me it is WAY more likely that meds made to alter brain chemistry are leading to altered mental functioning. Call me crazy...

It's clearly something. I just can't embrace vaccines as a significant factor.

small aside: I think we've reached the point in American society beyond which our brains cannot handle the stimulation. It is a constant barrage of information, stimulation, combined with laziness. We never sit on a horse and watch the miles fade away while thinking. America leads the world in mental illness diagnosis, both adult and youth (guessing here, someone can fact check me if you want), and we need to scale our stimuli back.

It's not so much the claim that I dispute. It's the extrapolation and generalizations derived therefrom.

Not a big deal. It's too close to the holidays to be wrapped around the axle on this point. I thought the new information on a possible link to anti-depressants was newsworthy.

 

[17 squirrel]

Allrighty Now,, where were those Obamy Christmas Family Photos again ???

 

[hoosierdoc]

I'm hoping to toss my hat in the ring Monday. No time today

 

[HoughMade]

[h=1]Weaponized Health Communication: Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate[/h]
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/10.2105/AJPH.2018.304567

 

[chezuki]

I got my flu shot AND a hep A vaccine today!

 

[Dead Duck]

I got my flu shot AND a hep A vaccine today!

Wait a minute.
Are you saying that you can just tell them to vaccinate you from certain things you don't want to get? Like a menu of sorts?

Can I get vaccinated against Broccoli? Oh and RedHeads? Ya, and James Yeager......definitely Yeager.

 

[Expat]

I hear that churchmouse has an INGO vaccine...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I hear that churchmouse has an INGO vaccine...

The INGO vaccine reverses Aspergers Syndrome and allows people to follow the Four Rules of Gun Safety.