Good luck in your future endeavors. Appleseed provides liability insurance for our club. We will not be inviting your group. Appleseed will always be welcome. It is too bad you cannot reconcile.
I know Dave. I like Dave. I dont know you. If you think your comment will change my mind, you are wrong.
Calling me names does not help your cause.
Good golly.
I have been an Appleseed instructor since 2004. You say I come out of nowhere? Yeah, I have not been active for a while. I still believe in the program as envisioned by the founder. I am sad that these people could not find a way to work within the Appleseed program.
I am serious. I am sad there is no reconciliation with Appleseed.
As much as I like them as individuals, this offshoot of the Appleseed program will not be invited to our range.
I did not mean you came out of nowhere in regards to Appleseed. I haven't had the privilege of attending an Appleseed event yet, and I don't know you. But based on every other post you've ever made that I have read, I would like to meet you and talk shooting with you and strike up a friendship. I just meant that your comment in this thread seemed to come out of nowhere, that's all.
Well, you kinda did show up out of nowhere and drop a big "we will not be inviting you." I can see how someone would take that as an insulting statement. I don't know what history is between you, but I will take your word that you like him. But maybe you can see where the statement was a bit tasteless.
I did not mean you came out of nowhere in regards to Appleseed. I haven't had the privilege of attending an Appleseed event yet, and I don't know you. But based on every other post you've ever made that I have read, I would like to meet you and talk shooting with you and strike up a friendship. I just meant that your comment in this thread seemed to come out of nowhere, that's all.
Good luck in your future endeavors. Appleseed provides liability insurance for our club. We will not be inviting your group. Appleseed will always be welcome. It is too bad you cannot reconcile.
I appreciate Sloughfoot's comment. It points out a very practical issue around programs like this - potential liability for the hosting organization. Appleseed provides liability insurance. If Revere's Riders does not, they will have a hard time finding host ranges. That will curtail their ability to provide training.
Personally, I see this as a big loss for Indiana. Apparently our State lost a large number of Appleseed instructors to this schism. This is based on a few posts, and the fact that there are very few Appleseeds scheduled in Indiana for 2015 - way down from the last 2-3 years. Revere's Riders have only added ONE event, and that in December. RR has only FOUR events scheduled for the entire country in the remainder of 2015! I see this schism as a loss to the shooting community in general.
Let's hope the situation improves. I wish both organizations well, but the organizations aren't, or shouldn't be, the focus. We, the shooting, and not-yet-shooting, public are. We are the losers in this.
I don't know what caused the schism. I would like to know and understand it. Not from a "prurient" standpoint, but truly from the standpoint of understanding the issue(s) that caused it.
I fail to comprehend why anybody needs to know why. Both organizations are fully staffed and operated by volunteers. How and when a person decides to volunteer their time and talents is entirely up to that person. Nothing more needs to be said.
However, if you feel you must offer an explanation, try this … Did you attend school a one-room classroom that had a single teacher presenting all the available instruction? More than likely, you were taught by several different teachers in several different school buildings as you progressed through the education process. Revere’s Riders is nothing more than another opportunity to learn more about the shooting sports. A different teacher in a different building.
Anybody who liked Appleseeds, is going to like Revere’s Riders (assuming you attend with an open mind). RR will be conducting basic rifle events similar to Appleseed events you’ve attended in the past. The big difference is that RR will also be offering a wider variety of rifle and pistol events.
While you wait for Revere’s Riders to ramp up, or for an Appleseed to be scheduled at your favorite range, you can always spend your time dry firing at home. A person proficient in the art of the rifle isn’t made just by attending a few weekend events. They spend hours and hours practicing their trigger control, learning how to quickly acquire NPOA, then how to quickly shift their NPOA, most importantly, they train their bodies how to relax in the various shooting positions.
I wish I had been allowed to stay with Appleseed too! Unfortunately, that wasn't my choice. I was deactivated prior to the expiration of the deadline to respond to a roll call.TJ, I appreciate your input, and your confidence in the new organization. I just wish you had stayed with Appleseed. ...
I just wish you had stayed with Appleseed.