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What Constitutes a "Low Ball" Offer?
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I'm with you on this. If I sell something on Craigslist or Heaven forbid a garage/yard sale, I just want rid of it. You will get a great deal!
When it comes to guns, I have sold some in the past that I still regret.(S&W 586 for approx. $300, a Ruger Single Six .22 for less than $200, a Rem 870 for $150) At those prices, I should have kept them. This is why I will keep a current firearm unless I can get a reasonable price for it. I may lose a little money, but I'm not willing to "give it away". Who knows with my fickle mind I may want it again some day and then I will still have it.
Oh Lord don't get me started on CL, I posted something for sale ONCE, with great big letters saying CASH ONLY NO TRADES! Had no less than 30 emails wanting to trade everything from 4 wheelers to small farm animals. No one with cash, so it went to evilbay, and I got $30 more than my original cash asking price.I'm with you on this. If I sell something on Craigslist or Heaven forbid a garage/yard sale, I just want rid of it. You will get a great deal!
When it comes to guns, I have sold some in the past that I still regret.(S&W 586 for approx. $300, a Ruger Single Six .22 for less than $200, a Rem 870 for $150) At those prices, I should have kept them. This is why I will keep a current firearm unless I can get a reasonable price for it. I may lose a little money, but I'm not willing to "give it away". Who knows with my fickle mind I may want it again some day and then I will still have it.
I have received what I thought were ridiculously low offers on some things, but I just politely replied "no, thank you." I don't have a double secret probation list, or anything like that. If you don't ask, you won't know what somebody will accept.
The deal request that really took the cake was one where I pm'd a guy that had a "Wanted to Buy" ad for a gun part. I had it, had no need for it, and offered it to him free of charge if he would pay actual shipping. He asked me to drive 2 hours to his place and deliver it to him. Seriously, really happened. I still have the part.
The deal request that really took the cake was one where I pm'd a guy that had a "Wanted to Buy" ad for a gun part. I had it, had no need for it, and offered it to him free of charge if he would pay actual shipping. He asked me to drive 2 hours to his place and deliver it to him. Seriously, really happened. I still have the part.
It's depends on how bad you wanna sell it.
I bought my RL550B at yard sale because the dude was too old to reload any more, just wanted it gone. It was rusty being sitting in the corner of his garage for years, the main ram was seized. Asking price was 400, when I offered 150, he didn't even blink.
I bought my RL550B at yard sale because the dude was too old to reload any more, just wanted it gone. It was rusty being sitting in the corner of his garage for years, the main ram was seized. Asking price was 400, when I offered 150, he didn't even blink.
I have found when dealing with Armslist that those who try to low ball and then accept when I take 25 bucks off my asking price tend to be no shows with all of the excuses in the book. I know most of the good stuff on INGO is further south, but I think some of us factor the cost of the drive especially if we are willing to drive to Indy or whatnot for an item.
An offer you know to be well below the value of an item. There's been several examples here, but the Glock one was the best. $495 at the LGS for new. That would incur sales tax. Some buyer asking $550 isn't unreasonable. A $500 offer isn't unreasonable. The buyer knows you'll pay about $535 new, and thinks $15 saves you the hassle of the 4473. But they also know what they have in hand can not be considered new and carries a risk for the buyer. In fact, I'd call $500 a very fair offer. Personally, I don't care what the seller claims, it's a used gun and should sell for 10% less than the going new price. The real value is market minus the unknown factor. In that scenrio, I would offer $450. If that offends the buyer, so be it. If they want to call it a low ball, so be it. I think it's a fair price. Go one step further, I think that $450 is a fair price, but offer $350, that's a low ball.
Spear Dane
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As I do all of my on line selling right here I have a process.
Any offer I get I do the research on the member.
95% of the idiot level low balls come from obvious flippers. If you get one of these back after an offer...
I consider you one of those people.
I know what I have invested and also what I am comfortable selling it for. I always loose my pants (optional) as my insanity to modify overwhelms common sense. If you buy one of my guns you will be getting a deal. Period.
That said, when looking at something to buy I use Buds as a reference as to what it can be bought for new. Figure in rounds shot etc and so on it is easy to figure what most anything is actually worth.
Any offer I get I do the research on the member.
95% of the idiot level low balls come from obvious flippers. If you get one of these back after an offer...
I consider you one of those people.I know what I have invested and also what I am comfortable selling it for. I always loose my pants (optional) as my insanity to modify overwhelms common sense. If you buy one of my guns you will be getting a deal. Period.
That said, when looking at something to buy I use Buds as a reference as to what it can be bought for new. Figure in rounds shot etc and so on it is easy to figure what most anything is actually worth.
That explains the "low ball" part....I don't want to speculate about where the "offer" comes in.
I bought a pistol on here a couple years ago. It was listed for $450, I asked if he would take $400, thinking he would say no and we'd meet at $425 or so. He said yes to the $400.
I don't think that was "low-ball" but had I gone down any further ($375, $350, etc.) I would consider those to be "low-ball".
I don't think that was "low-ball" but had I gone down any further ($375, $350, etc.) I would consider those to be "low-ball".
^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's all I will say.When communicating via PM, email, or text, I just don't understand why it's a big deal, and I don't get it when people say "lowball offers will be ignored". It takes just a few seconds to reply with "no thanks" and move on to the next one. Now if someone wastes my time in person, that's another story, but even then "sorry, not willing to sell it for that right now" and going home is pretty easy.
When I see "low ball offers will be ignored" I just consider the posted price and options to be firm and non-negotiable...then I can take it or leave it. Don't get bent over a guy and his asking price...it's just silly.
Offers are one thing. No worries. I state reasonable offers considered.
But if I take a lower price I am not driving out 50 miles to deliver it.
50 is my limit anymore unless I know you or repeat deal.
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Everything is subjective, offers and asking prices. There is whining to be done about both.
Some stuff sells, some stuff don't.
Anyone ever tracked some of the adds that are bumped almost daily for months on end?
Some stuff sells, some stuff don't.
Anyone ever tracked some of the adds that are bumped almost daily for months on end?
Low balls offers are like porn. You know it when you see it.
I've had nothing but fair dealings here. I've bought plenty of stuff at a good price and never even considered asking to pay less. Others I've asked for a 10% or so discount and the seller was happy to take it.
Same with selling. I've dropped a few prices, but I don't list stuff I have emotional attachment to. Usually by the time I list it, I'm ready for it to be gone.
I've had nothing but fair dealings here. I've bought plenty of stuff at a good price and never even considered asking to pay less. Others I've asked for a 10% or so discount and the seller was happy to take it.
Same with selling. I've dropped a few prices, but I don't list stuff I have emotional attachment to. Usually by the time I list it, I'm ready for it to be gone.
