what's necessary & how many is too many?

[throttletony]

INGO - I've been looking at Vuurwapenblog's youtOOb channel and he addressed something that I've been discussing with friends: how many guns is too many and what is a realistic (or recommended) minimum number that covers a broad spectrum of general uses. This is for making recommendations to a friend that has NO or FEW guns already.

For me (very similar to video below, some small differences): I would recommend that anyone who is going to have "guns" in the most generic sense, should have the following
1) a handgun in centerfire caliber - revolver or pistol
2) a rifle in .22LR. I'd certainly suggest threaded barrel, but that's a separate discussion
3) a hunting OR personal defense rifle (video puts these in separate categories -- for someone starting out, ANY rifle is better than no rifle) (BEFORE you jump down my throat, keep reading)
4) a shotgun - any action, 12 or 20 ga. I'd recommend something with flexibility. I'm glad the video mentions this as well, I wish I had known what an extra barrel cost for my Benelli when I bought it.

For me that's a minimal, acceptable list. IF there's room, I'd add:
5) opposite of #3 above - if you have a hunting rifle, get a PDW/AR/AK variant, or vice-versa
6) a .22 handgun OR secondary handgun
What do yall think?? Now to make it more complicated, if you only had room for 3 in a budget --- which 3 to get??

[video=youtube;Ce8Q7BKda20]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce8Q7BKda20[/video]

My 3 would be:
1) Rifle (AR)
2) centerfire Handgun
3) shotgun
although it's hard to cut the .22 from the list, if I only had 3, it'd probably be those

 

[level0]

I can't answer all the questions, but I can address the 'how many is too many':

Whenever a person has all the guns they want, one more is too many.

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

My friends and I too discussed this recently.
The (generic) list that I came up with would be:

1. Carry Handgun
2. HD Handgun
3. Rifle (Hunting, HD, SHTF)
4. Shotgun (Hunting, HD, SHTF)

 

[wtfd661]

There is no such thing as to many, I want them ALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!

 

[Bunnykid68]

Cannot have too many in my mind either. You will invariably end up arming friends or family with some of them should the time come.

 

[sb0]

"a rifle in .22LR. I'd certainly suggest threaded barrel, but that's a separate discussion"

Why? I don't need a rifle in 22LR.

There is no such universal thing as "too many" or "too few".

Although I'd say that based on my observations, a substantial portion of Americans have wayyy too much "stuff" in general, guns aside.

 

[pudly]

Too many? How much is too many books? music? shoes? If someone has 100+ guns, then they have both the means and the interest. Who's business is it how many they have? Do you really think anyone should have a say in what someone else owns?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Cool, we get to play Mel Tappan?

I think it depends on your station in life, your own circumstances dictate what is "too many". E.g., if you are established (financially) then you can roll heavier than the guy that just got married and his wife wants new furniture and a baby. Simple market realities.

Now to make it more complicated, if you only had room for 3 in a budget --- which 3 to get??

1. A carry gun.
2. Another carry gun just like it but with a .22 conversion kit available.
3. Centerfire rifle of some sort--AR-15, G3, M14, bolt-action rifle, inter alia, whatever.

My answer would change if I was a country dweller.

 

[throttletony]

Too many? How much is too many books? music? shoes? If someone has 100+ guns, then they have both the means and the interest. Who's business is it how many they have? Do you really think anyone should have a say in what someone else owns?

thanks, Kirk, for bringing it back on track. I appreciate what pudly, sbo, and bunnykid are saying, but let's all just breath here...

Maybe I should have rephrased the original question. (Yes, people have a lot of stuff...)
If you suggested someone's FIRST 3 firearms, what would they be?

 

[BogWalker]

Too many is when you can't pay your other bills.

I vote Ruger 10/22 as definitely deserving of being in many first three gun lists.

 

[chezuki]

INGO - I've been looking at Vuurwapenblog's youtOOb channel and he addressed something that I've been discussing with friends: how many guns is too many and what is a realistic (or recommended) minimum number that covers a broad spectrum of general uses. This is for making recommendations to a friend that has NO or FEW guns already.

For me (very similar to video below, some small differences): I would recommend that anyone who is going to have "guns" in the most generic sense, should have the following
1) a handgun in centerfire caliber - revolver or pistol
2) a rifle in .22LR. I'd certainly suggest threaded barrel, but that's a separate discussion
3) a hunting OR personal defense rifle (video puts these in separate categories -- for someone starting out, ANY rifle is better than no rifle) (BEFORE you jump down my throat, keep reading)
4) a shotgun - any action, 12 or 20 ga. I'd recommend something with flexibility. I'm glad the video mentions this as well, I wish I had known what an extra barrel cost for my Benelli when I bought it.

Perfect.

 

[patience0830]

1) .22 bolt action Sako P94S with bbl threaded.

2) .308 Win AR with Lilja bbl, other caliber uppers on purchase list.

3) 12 ga Remington 870 with extended tube.

The most ability to put down bigger threats, plus, with a suppressor you have the ability to procure food in stealth mode.

Next item would be handgun. My list for my locale.

 

[buzz815]

If you know how many you have, you don't have enough.

 

[lucky4034]

For me... if I could only pick 3

AR
10/22
CZ Rami

my 4th gun would be a 870 12g

 

[ilcaveman]

There is no such thing as too many guns, just ask my ex wife.

 

[churchmouse]

There is no such thing as to many, I want them ALLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah.
I have found that at a point where you have multiple safes the trading/selling/buying just increases.

 

[nakinate]

"a rifle in .22LR. I'd certainly suggest threaded barrel, but that's a separate discussion"

Why? I don't need a rifle in 22LR.

There is no such universal thing as "too many" or "too few".

Although I'd say that based on my observations, a substantial portion of Americans have wayyy too much "stuff" in general, guns aside.

Why not a .22 rifle? When SHTF it would be useful for hunting small game.

 

[Fishersjohn48]

Well there is an obvious answer here.

1 is too many right? After all non of us actually OWN any guns any more......You know, after the tragic boating accident?

Seriously though I guess the answer is when you can't remember how many you have, even after spending a half hour adding them up in your head........

 

[Liberty Sanders]

I was at the member's banquet for one of the NRA Conventions when I was on the board where Senator Phil Gramm was the featured speaker.

He delivered perhaps the greatest line I ever heard on this subject:

"I have more guns than I can shoot, but I don't have as many as I want."

 

[BGDave]

Cool, we get to play Mel Tappan?

I think it depends on your station in life, your own circumstances dictate what is "too many". E.g., if you are established (financially) then you can roll heavier than the guy that just got married and his wife wants new furniture and a baby. Simple market realities.



1. A carry gun.
2. Another carry gun just like it but with a .22 conversion kit available.
3. Centerfire rifle of some sort--AR-15, G3, M14, bolt-action rifle, inter alia, whatever.

My answer would change if I was a country dweller.

Mel Tappan. Now that is a blast from the past. He was one of the original "survivalist" writers. Guns and Ammo I think? He was a big proponent of .22 rifles and ammo for same.


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