When does the magazine shortage start?

[Gabriel]

[h=2]When does the magazine shortage start?[/h]

Probably Wednesday.

 

[thompal]

Think back to the 94 Crime Bill. Ones that you already owned were grandfathered, but all new ones had to have a serial and couldn't be owned

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Millions, and I do mean MILLIONS of Americans own standard capacity magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

How many bump stocks are out there? How many have been turned in? Look it up.

Let's see how turning millions of Americans into instant felons works out for the government.

It would probably work as well as marijuana prohibition. Entire states are ignoring federal drug laws, telling the federal government to mind their own business and the feds doing just that. We could do the same with gun laws.

 

[DNS]

And if you are caught with one or use it defend yourself or family you go to jail for ten years! This is Biden 's dream world. He's been trying to enact this and ban handguns for almost fifty years.

 

[jwestks]

My stimulus money was well spent.

 

[Expat]

Hopefully we hold the Senate to block any new gun control.

 

[DadSmith]

Magazine shortage will begin soon.

 

[STEEL CORE]

Now, today, price will only go up if you find any.

 

[Wire Fox]

I'm thinking it's time to buy a few extras, meself. Had plenty to go around in March, but a break-in a couple months ago changed that for me. I'm already back to enough to be very comfortable, but would certainly like to have enough extra to keep a few weapons happy at the same time.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Think back to the 94 Crime Bill. Ones that you already owned were grandfathered, but all new ones had to have a serial and couldn't be owned

This is untrue.

There were no serial numbers applied.

Magazines made after September 1994 could be owned by law enforcement and military. I purchased a sizeable number of them.

 

[blue2golf]

Now, today, price will only go up if you find any.

Michigan called for Biden + PSA "Daily Deal" PSA 36" single gun case/7 D&H 5.56 mags for $120....yeah, I went ahead and took advantage.

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

Michigan called for Biden + PSA "Daily Deal" PSA 36" single gun case/7 D&H 5.56 mags for $120....yeah, I went ahead and took advantage.

I pick one of these up once or twice a year the last few years. Great mags, I love these cases. Each rifle has it own one loaded up now.


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[cbhausen]

Pre- or post-election I’ve had no trouble getting anything I need magazine-wise.

 

[thompal]

This is untrue.

There were no serial numbers applied.

Magazines made after September 1994 could be owned by law enforcement and military. I purchased a sizeable number of them.

Every 30 round post ban magazine I acquired had a # and date stamped on the floorplate. I was under the impression that was how they could tell if it was grandfathered in. If it had no date/# stamp, it was grandfathered, but if it had a #/date that meant it was LEO/military only.

 

[thompal]

This is untrue.

There were no serial numbers applied.

Magazines made after September 1994 could be owned by law enforcement and military. I purchased a sizeable number of them.

I was right. Here's the text out of the 1994 Crime Bill:


SEC. 4. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

(.........)
(b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device.--
Section 921(a) of such title, as amended by section 2(b) of this Act,
is amended by adding at the end the following:
``(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
``(A) means--
``(i) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or
similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be
readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10
rounds of ammunition; and
``(ii) any combination of parts from which a device
described in clause (i) can be assembled; but
``(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed
to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber
rimfire ammunition.''.
(c) Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices Treated as
Firearms.--Section 921(a)(3) of such title is amended in the first
sentence by striking ``or (D) any destructive device.'' and inserting
``(D) any destructive device; or (E) any large capacity ammunition
feeding device.''.
(d) Penalty.--Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such title, as amended by
section 2(c) of this Act, is amended by striking ``or (v)'' and
inserting ``(v), or (x)''.
(e) Identification Markings for Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding
Devices.--Section 923(i) of such title, as amended by section 2(d) of
this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``A large
capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the
enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that
clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the
effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the
Secretary may by regulation prescribe.''.

 

[drillsgt]

I was right. Here's the text out of the 1994 Crime Bill:


SEC. 4. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

(.........)
(b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device.--
Section 921(a) of such title, as amended by section 2(b) of this Act,
is amended by adding at the end the following:
``(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
``(A) means--
``(i) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or
similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be
readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10
rounds of ammunition; and
``(ii) any combination of parts from which a device
described in clause (i) can be assembled; but
``(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed
to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber
rimfire ammunition.''.
(c) Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices Treated as
Firearms.--Section 921(a)(3) of such title is amended in the first
sentence by striking ``or (D) any destructive device.'' and inserting
``(D) any destructive device; or (E) any large capacity ammunition
feeding device.''.
(d) Penalty.--Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such title, as amended by
section 2(c) of this Act, is amended by striking ``or (v)'' and
inserting ``(v), or (x)''.
(e) Identification Markings for Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding
Devices.--Section 923(i) of such title, as amended by section 2(d) of
this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``A large
capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the
enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that
clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the
effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the
Secretary may by regulation prescribe.''.

I never saw any with a serial number, usually a date and some sort of for LE use only language.

 

[Expat]

I didnt know that you can order direct from Magpul. About the same as everywhere else now that no one is discounting them.

 

[Route 45]

I was right. Here's the text out of the 1994 Crime Bill:


SEC. 4. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES.

(.........)
(b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device.--
Section 921(a) of such title, as amended by section 2(b) of this Act,
is amended by adding at the end the following:
``(31) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'--
``(A) means--
``(i) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or
similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be
readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10
rounds of ammunition; and
``(ii) any combination of parts from which a device
described in clause (i) can be assembled; but
``(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed
to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber
rimfire ammunition.''.
(c) Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Devices Treated as
Firearms.--Section 921(a)(3) of such title is amended in the first
sentence by striking ``or (D) any destructive device.'' and inserting
``(D) any destructive device; or (E) any large capacity ammunition
feeding device.''.
(d) Penalty.--Section 924(a)(1)(B) of such title, as amended by
section 2(c) of this Act, is amended by striking ``or (v)'' and
inserting ``(v), or (x)''.
(e) Identification Markings for Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding
Devices.--Section 923(i) of such title, as amended by section 2(d) of
this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following: ``A large
capacity ammunition feeding device manufactured after the date of the
enactment of this sentence shall be identified by a serial number that
clearly shows that the device was manufactured or imported after the
effective date of this subsection, and such other identification as the
Secretary may by regulation prescribe.''.

No, you are not right. Magazines did not have serial numbers on them. I don't care what the statute says. Some did have dates on them.

 

[gregkl]

I got mine today and I was about to be really disappointed because they weren't seating into my PSA AR. I then remembered someone said on another thread about these that they had to unload them 1-2 rounds. I Loaded them all to 29 rounds and tested all 12. They seated correctly at 29 rounds. I'm still happy about the purchase for 29 round magazines.

John Lovell did a youtube video on why he loads all of his 30 round magazines to 29. He had some valid points in my opinion so even though mine ran fine loaded to 30, I'm going to start loading to 29. He values a tactical reload vs emergency and leaving one out makes it easier to seat the mag against a closed bolt.

 

[thompal]

No, you are not right. Magazines did not have serial numbers on them. I don't care what the statute says. Some did have dates on them.

That's kind of an odd stance to take. Perhaps you only ran into unmarked 30 round magazines between 1994 and 2004 because civilians couldn't legally buy the ones made in that 10 year period, and you only saw "pre-ban" magazines which were grandfathered and legal.