When it's time to bug out it'll be too late won't it?

[DCM8513]

what would constitute leaving your home? What "sign" would it take and where would you go? It seams as though if a situation were bad enough to make me want to leave home, anywhere available to go would be in as much danger as home.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Depends on what happens.

1) You live in a trailer park. Weather man says a bad storm is coming.

2) You live down in a "holler" and a big snow storm is coming.

3) Crop fire in the field next door and the wind is blowing your way.

All of these are "signs" that you might want to temporarily re-locate to a safer place.

Now, if you are asking, "when is it time to become a hermit?" Well, any time is a good time for that. Assuming you'll be self sufficient, and plan to live that way until you die, does timing really matter?

 

[DCM8513]

Depends on what happens.

1) You live in a trailer park. Weather man says a bad storm is coming.

2) You live down in a "holler" and a big snow storm is coming.

3) Crop fire in the field next door and the wind is blowing your way.

All of these are "signs" that you might want to temporarily re-locate to a safer place.

Now, if you are asking, "when is it time to become a hermit?" Well, any time is a good time for that. Assuming you'll be self sufficient, and plan to live that way until you die, does timing really matter?

Easy now, im on ur side. Just looked into the survival threads for the first time and found it a bit crazy. Seemed like all it was about was crazy occurances that dont seem to likely. Not ruling them out, just unlikely.

 

[RichardR]

What "sign" would it take and where would you go?

Chain-saw wielding polar bears.

 

[roisigns]

You need to leave home 24 hours before the 99% realize that the S is about to HTF. Have your hideaway ready ASAP.

What kind of sign triggers the exodus? Local bank holidays (failures), riots, loss of electricity that is not due to weather.

 

[roisigns]

Indicators of Impending Financial Crisis​

·A sharp spike in the Federal Funds Rate
· News of a failed Treasury auction, or news that Treasury rates have spiked
· Overt talk of a US default by Asian or European bankers
· Multiple (8+) simultaneous US bank failures on one Friday
· Any large bank runs in the US (with customers lined up in the streets)
· A stock market drop of more than 1,200 points in one day
· A large and sudden spike in inflation
· Any suspension of US stock trading
· Draconian new stock trading limits (for example any new "circuit breaker" rules, followed by news that the trading was halted because of the limits)
· New restrictions on precious metals purchasing or new reporting requirements
· New limits on moving funds outside the US
· Any large derivatives trading collapses.(Because of disappearing counterparties or illiquidity.)
· News that hundreds of hedge funds are suspending redemptions
· News that many Money Market funds are dropping below $1.00 Net Asset Value (NAV)
· The US Dollar Index (USDI) dropping below 68 for more than one full week of trading.
· Any sudden large interest rate moves by the FOMC. (Up or down.)
· Rioting in several metropolitan centers simultaneously.
· Gold spiking past $2,000 per ounce
· News that any major western power is no longer accepting US Dollars in payment for key commodities
· News that any major trading partners are no longer rolling over the majority of their US Treasury paper
· A closed session of the full congress that lasts a full day or longer.
· The Treasury starts to extensively monetize debt.
· The resignation of either the Treasury Secretary or the Federal Reserve Chairman.

 

[churchmouse]

Good question. I have been working on more than one plan depending on how the SHTF happens. On one extreme there is a natural or manmade disaster that wipes out huge population centers and disrupts everything on a national level overnight. On the other extreme there is the long slow slide into the crapper that gets worse every day and one day you must act. Two different plans are required.

There is a third plan that requires learning Mandarin Chinese but I don't like to think about that.

Maybe we should all have 2 or 3 planned scenarios and responses.

We have 3 different escape routes and destinations and all are within 2 hrs. tops if we do not encounter mass disruption. Consider laying low until the initial surge is either gone or thwarted. Let all the un-prepared panic stricken folks take that hit. If possible stay put and live off of you stores until it appears to be safe enough to move. That will give you enough time to gather everything you need and put a proper plan together. We will be convoying so fuel is an issue. That is addressed with a pump that will run off whatever power is available,12/120 volts and a good hose to siphon. Are you a looter if you take fuel in flight, that is up to you.

 

[churchmouse]

Easy now, im on ur side. Just looked into the survival threads for the first time and found it a bit crazy. Seemed like all it was about was crazy occurances that dont seem to likely. Not ruling them out, just unlikely.

Chance favors the prepared mind......Do not know about you but I want to live.