Who can legally carry at a school

[Indy_Guy_77]

IC 12-7-2-143.5
Preschool
Sec. 143.5. "Preschool", for purposes of IC 12-17.2, means a program that provides an educational experience through an age appropriate written curriculum for children at least thirty (30) months of age who are not eligible to enter kindergarten and that:
(1) conducts sessions for not more than four (4) hours a day;
(2) enrolls children for only one (1) session a day;
(3) does not serve meals on the premises;
(4) maintains a child to staff ratio of not more than fifteen (15) children to one (1) staff member;
(5) supervises children at all times with a person who is at least eighteen (18) years of age; and
(6) does not operate for more than ten (10) consecutive days.
As added by P.L.61-1993, SEC.5; P.L.136-1993, SEC.5. Amended by P.L.1-1994, SEC.51.

Well unfortunately for the children's museum, it does not qualify as a "Preschool" as legally defined in the IC since they serve food on the premises. You can call your seminars whatever you want, but it's the legal definition that counts.

This serving meals... The kids enrolled get the meal, or meaning "meals are served or purchased by the general patronage? I understand the spirit of the IC pertains to a facility for kids serving meals to kids.

I'd hate to get persnickety, but the gray areas of the law can easily come down against us as "for us".

-J-

 

[citycreek]

Utah's statue that allows CCW's on school property

Here is the Utah statute that allows someone with a Utah Concealed Firearms Permit to carry weapons on school property in the State of Utah. Could use similar wording in the Indiana statues (see the words marked in the color red).


http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050505.htm

Utah Code
Title 76 Utah Criminal Code
Chapter 10 Offenses Against Public Health, Safety, Welfare, and Morals
Section 505.5 Possession of a dangerous weapon, firearm, or sawed-off shotgun on or about school premises -- Penalties.

76-10-505.5. Possession of a dangerous weapon, firearm, or sawed-off shotgun on or about school premises -- Penalties.
(1) A person may not possess any dangerous weapon, firearm, or sawed-off shotgun, as those terms are defined in Section 76-10-501, at a place that the person knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is on or about school premises as defined in Subsection 76-3-203.2(1).
(2) (a) Possession of a dangerous weapon on or about school premises is a class B misdemeanor.
(b) Possession of a firearm or sawed-off shotgun on or about school premises is a class A misdemeanor.
(3) This section does not apply if:
(a) the person is authorized to possess a firearm as provided under Section 53-5-704, 53-5-705, 76-10-511, or 76-10-523, or as otherwise authorized by law;
(b) the possession is approved by the responsible school administrator;
(c) the item is present or to be used in connection with a lawful, approved activity and is in the possession or under the control of the person responsible for its possession or use; or
(d) the possession is:
(i) at the person's place of residence or on the person's property;
(ii) in any vehicle lawfully under the person's control, other than a vehicle owned by the school or used by the school to transport students; or
(iii) at the person's place of business which is not located in the areas described in Subsection 76-3-203.2(1)(a)(i), (ii), or (iv).
(4) This section does not prohibit prosecution of a more serious weapons offense that may occur on or about school premises.



Section 53-5-704 =
Section 704 Bureau duties -- Permit to carry concealed firearm -- Certification for concealed firearms instructor -- Requirements for issuance -- Violation -- Denial, suspension, or revocation -- Appeal procedure.

Section 53-5-705 =
Section 705 Temporary permit to carry concealed firearm -- Denial, suspension, or revocation -- Appeal.

 

[Buckaroo]

Here is the Utah statute that allows someone with a Utah Concealed Firearms Permit to carry weapons on school property in the State of Utah. Could use similar wording in the Indiana statues (see the words marked in the color red).


http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_10_050505.htm

Utah Code
Title 76 Utah Criminal Code
Chapter 10 Offenses Against Public Health, Safety, Welfare, and Morals....

This is what we need!

Buckaroo

 

[Brett]

My father-in-law is now a recently retired high school principal. The local school system would not let him carry at all in school. Not even in his car. He has a LTCH. I guess after they came down on him about it, he never pushed the issue again.