Why does Ukraine matter?

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  • gregr

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    In other words, everything you don't like or haven't heard from your grandfather is propaganda. Gotcha.



    Somebody's fee-fees are hurt, dang.
    I thought it was a free country and a red state. Huh.

    Lemme sum it up:
    > locust
    > dead weight
    > Satan
    > KGB operative

    Dang, some nasty people here.
    I don't think I broke any rules, but if the mods will it, ban me.
    Fortunately you don`t have to be banned, we can just use the ignore button.
     

    Tombs

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    Isn't it funny the amount of whataboutisms online after one of the most naked acts of aggression ever?

    "They're corrupt"
    "The CIA was involved in 2015"
    "They're woke"

    Wow it's almost like the right of self determination and sovereignty trumps all that.

    I wish every Muscovite a painful death on Ukrainian land.

    Isn't it funny how it was the "lyin media, fake news, liberal propaganda" for the past 7 years of non-stop trump russia this, trump russia that?

    Now suddenly it's totally real guys, not at all fake, not at all a lie or liberal propaganda.

    Once a liar, always a liar. I don't believe anyone's side of the story on this and believe it's best to keep to ourselves, as we've already managed to screw ourselves more than hurt Russia. Checked your stocks lately, or buy gas?
     

    KG1

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    Isn't it funny how it was the "lyin media, fake news, liberal propaganda" for the past 7 years of non-stop trump russia this, trump russia that?

    Now suddenly it's totally real guys, not at all fake, not at all a lie or liberal propaganda.

    Once a liar, always a liar. I don't believe anyone's side of the story on this and believe it's best to keep to ourselves, as we've already managed to screw ourselves more than hurt Russia. Checked your stocks lately, or buy gas?
    Hey. We've been told by Biden and Kamala that sometimes you have to make sacrifices. In other words, we have to give up some in order to impose sanctions on Russia.
     

    gvbcraig

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    A movie I have completely forgotten about, just happened watched on Hulu this evening. Mr. Jones



    it is so relevant in today’s battle of miss information with Russia, nothing has changed.
    The true story that inspired George Orwell when he wrote Animal Farm.
     
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    Lefty Lawless

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    For those who ask: “Why does Ukraine matter? “
    Being of Ukrainian descent, I have had numerous friends and co workers ask me why is Russia invading Ukraine.
    If Russia controls all of Ukraine's resources, sanctions imposed by Biden will have no effect on Russia, they will have all they need.

    The following list came from a Ukrainian Genealogy blog posted by Scott Womack, Retired Special Agent, & NRA Certified Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor.

    This is why Ukraine matters.

    It is the second largest country by area in Europe by area and has a population of over 40 million - more than Poland.

    Ukraine ranks:

    1st in Europe in proven recoverable reserves of uranium ores;
    2nd place in Europe and 10th place in the world in terms of titanium ore reserves;
    2nd place in the world in terms of explored reserves of manganese ores (2.3 billion tons, or 12% of the world's reserves);
    2nd largest iron ore reserves in the world (30 billion tons);
    2nd place in Europe in terms of mercury ore reserves;
    3rd place in Europe (13th place in the world) in shale gas reserves (22 trillion cubic meters)
    4th in the world by the total value of natural resources;
    7th place in the world in coal reserves (33.9 billion tons)

    Ukraine is an important agricultural country:

    1st in Europe in terms of arable land area;
    3rd place in the world by the area of black soil (25% of world's volume);
    1st place in the world in exports of sunflower and sunflower oil;
    2nd place in the world in barley production and 4th place in barley exports;
    3rd largest producer and 4th largest exporter of corn in the world;
    4th largest producer of potatoes in the world;
    5th largest rye producer in the world;
    5th place in the world in bee production (75,000 tons);
    8th place in the world in wheat exports;
    9th place in the world in the production of chicken eggs;
    16th place in the world in cheese exports.

    Ukraine can meet the food needs of 600 million people.

    Ukraine is an important industrialized country:

    1st in Europe in ammonia production;

    Europe's 2nd’s and the world’s 4th largest natural gas pipeline system;
    3rd largest in Europe and 8th largest in the world in terms of installed capacity of nuclear power plants;
    3rd place in Europe and 11th in the world in terms of rail network length (21,700 km);
    3rd place in the world (after the U.S. and France) in production of locators and locating equipment;
    3rd largest iron exporter in the world
    4th largest exporter of turbines for nuclear power plants in the world;
    4th world's largest manufacturer of rocket launchers;
    4th place in the world in clay exports
    4th place in the world in titanium exports
    8th place in the world in exports of ores and concentrates;
    9th place in the world in exports of defense industry products;
    10th largest steel producer in the world (32.4 million tons).

    Ukraine matters. That is why its independence is important to the rest of the world.
    Is Ukraine a democracy or a Republic or ?
     

    Leadeye

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    Hey. We've been told by Biden and Kamala that sometimes you have to make sacrifices. In other words, we have to give up some in order to impose sanctions on Russia.

    Maybe we could confiscate all the money leadership made off of Ukraine deals and use it to make more Javelins and Stingers. Seems only fair that having contributed to this mess, they should pay some of the bill for it.
     
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    gvbcraig

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    Brazilian News Story about Ukrainian Refugees in Brazil.
    My cousin sent me this link, it is about the Ukrainian Refugees that fled to Brazil after WW2, as well as what is going on in the Ukraine right now. At 0:19 minutes into the story they show a photo of Ukrainian refugees living in Brazil. That photo was of my family, aunts/uncles/parents/ grand parents and me. The 6 year old on the far left is me. That was completely unexpected. Brazil news_LI.jpg
     

    gvbcraig

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    6 years ago my wife wrote a book about her mother's life story growing up in Communist controlled Eastern Ukraine, the Holodomor, WW2 and her escape to Freedom after the war. My mother in-law is the little girl standing in front. This photo was taken to send to her father you was in sentenced to the gulags Siberia. The embroidered shirt that her mother is wearing, we have that in our home, it is our connection and motivational symbol of survival, it has survived for over 100 years.

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    Wolfhound

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    @gvbcraig I appreciate your posts. You have good insight on what is currently happening and the history of Ukraine. I had pictured you as someone in their 20’s or 30’s but you are obviously much older than that. Your family history is fascinating.
     
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    printcraft

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    So, I guess white people should be pissed about Biden.

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