Will a Government Shut Down Slow NFA Wait Times?

[JoshuaW]

Do NFA examiners stop working if there is a shutdown?

 

[ljk]

yes, but I'm ok with it even I have 2 applications only couple months into the process.

I'm wondering if NICS is effected.

 

[shockabookoo]

I don't think NICS will be. But my form1 will most certainly be delayed.

 

[rkwhyte2]

I'm sure it will but seeing as how I'm 9 months into my wait what's a little more time.

 

[Bennettjh]

My LGS said they received word that the NICS system WOULDN'T be shut down. I was surprised actually.

 

[KJQ6945]

I'm sure it will but seeing as how I'm 9 months into my wait what's a little more time.

I've got 2 at 8 months now, I guess I'll quit checking the mailbox constantly.

if I can make a human being faster than can sign a form, we've got bigger problems. Let the shut down begin!

 

[ViperJock]

My LGS said they received word that the NICS system WOULDN'T be shut down. I was surprised actually.

If NICS fails to disapprove after so many days--the sale is approved by default.... No way they would let that happen.

Unfortunately, not the case with the tax stamps.

 

[JoshuaW]

I've got 2 at 8 months now, I guess I'll quit checking the mailbox constantly.

if I can make a human being faster than can sign a form, we've got bigger problems. Let the shut down begin!

I have two at 8 months as well. This is going to suck.

 

[ljk]

If NICS fails to disapprove after so many days--the sale is approved by default.... No way they would let that happen.

Unfortunately, not the case with the tax stamps.

my understand of how the NICS system works, is there are 2 types of process, online and call-in. the "Proceed" or approval requests are made by the automated system. for the LGS doing call-in, the person who answers the phone does simply punching in the info. if nobody answers, of course there will be no-sale.

for "Delay" and "Deny" inquiries, there will be reviewed by ATF agents. which if nobody is in the office, no "Proceed" means "no-sale".

 

[ViperJock]

my understand of how the NICS system works, is there are 2 types of process, online and call-in. the "Proceed" or approval requests are made by the automated system. for the LGS doing call-in, the person who answers the phone does simply punching in the info. if nobody answers, of course there will be no-sale.

for "Delay" and "Deny" inquiries, there will be reviewed by ATF agents. which if nobody is in the office, no "Proceed" means "no-sale".

You may be correct. But what about all the sales that are currently on delay?

 

[ljk]

those who are appealing "denied" would be effected if no body works at the ATF because their background check info have to be reviewed by a real person.

I don't know if the "delayed" transactions would be the case because of the following ATF regulation:

Applicable Federal Regulations
28 Code of Federal Regulation Part 25—The National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)
Section 25.6(c)(1)(iv)(B)—Delayed response provided to FFL:
(B) “Delayed” response, if the NICS search finds a record that requires more research to determine whether the prospective transferee is disqualified from possessing a firearm by federal or state law. A “Delayed” response to the FFL indicates that the firearm transfer should not proceed pending receipt of a follow-up “Proceed” response from the NICS or the expiration of three business days (exclusive of the day on which the query is made), whichever occurs first. (Example: An FFL requests a NICS check on a prospective firearm transferee at 9:00 a.m. on Friday and shortly thereafter receives a “Delayed” response from the NICS. If state offices in the state in which the FFL is located are closed on Saturday and Sunday and open the following Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and the NICS has not yet responded with a “Proceed” or “Denied” response, the FFL may transfer the firearm at 12:01 a.m. Thursday.)

 

[BogWalker]

Sorry to be a bit off topic, but does anyone know if C&R licenses are being processed?

 

[rkwhyte2]

Sorry to be a bit off topic, but does anyone know if C&R licenses are being processed?

They aren't doing anything at the ATF so I'm going to say they aren't processing C&R's

 

[nate1865]

I would imagine shutting down the NCIS would be akin to suspending the 2A.

 

[KJW]

My suppressor application went "pending" in June, and I called a week before the shutdown and was told it would be 9 months from the time it went pending to approval. Of course I guess that just got longer. My question is this, if the IRS targeted Tea Party type groups for extra scrutiny and delaying of tax exempt status, who is to say that the NFA isn't doing something similar to law abiding, contributing members of society who happen to want a suppressor? (Irrespective of a government shutdown of course.)

 

[JoshuaW]

My suppressor application went "pending" in June, and I called a week before the shutdown and was told it would be 9 months from the time it went pending to approval. Of course I guess that just got longer. My question is this, if the IRS targeted Tea Party type groups for extra scrutiny and delaying of tax exempt status, who is to say that the NFA isn't doing something similar to law abiding, contributing members of society who happen to want a suppressor? (Irrespective of a government shutdown of course.)

Because that would involve an entire division of the BATF to stop doing their job. How are they going to specifically target anyone when they dont really care about that entire segment of gun ownership? I dont think they are doing anything deliberate to slow things down, they just have a bad case of two many applications, not enough examiners.