Would hollow points work for hunting?

[Mosinowner]

Would a hollow point work for taking down a deer/hog?

 

[shooter1054]

It's what I use. Hornady XTP 240 grain.

 

[badmac183]

You're supposed to use hollow points.

 

[3point5]

.22 HP?? No.

.44 mag HP....absolutely.

 

[IndianaSlim]

Only use hollow points if you want to kill whatever it is you decide to hunt.

 

[Mike H]

I use 250 gr. ballistic tip [hollow point] T/C Shockwaes in my muzzy.
Massive blood trails.

 

[jmiller676]

.22 HP?? No.

.44 mag HP....absolutely.

Shot placement is key.

.22 HP would kill a deer and possibly a hog given a certain distance.

 

[captpaul]

It's what I use. Hornady XTP 240 grain.

What he said

 

[shibumiseeker]

It's not as simple as folks are making it out.

It depends on the gun, the animal, and how fast you want to kill it.

A hollowpoint is designed to dump energy faster by opening up, so by design it will have less penetration than the same round in a no-expanding configuration.

This is better for an animal for which ball ammo would just tend to go straight through, but less suitable for an animal with a heavy fat/muscle/bone structure. Pistol hunting bear you want a solid nonexpanding projectile. Rifle hunting deer with a centerfire and a hollowpoint or other expanding round is generally better.

Hunting elephant or similar big game, you want a solid nonexpanding projectile.

Will a nonexpanding projectile in a centerfire rifle kill a deer? Sure. But it may take a lot longer depending on your shot placement and that may mean you lose the animal and it dies a lot slower death. As far as hogs go, it'll depend on the size of the caliber and the size of the hog, a .223 hollowpoint on a 300-400lb hog may not kill from a longer distance because the round may never hit anything vital due to the fat and muscle layers expanding and stopping the round.

So a simple yes/no answer is not possible.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

You're supposed to use hollow points.

No such requirement in IN.

Other states require it, but not here.

-J-

 

[singlestacksig]

No such requirement in IN.

Other states require it, but not here.

-J-

Indiana does prohibit Full metal jacket ammo for deer..Hogs, you can use anything you want.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

Indiana does prohibit Full metal jacket ammo for deer..Hogs, you can use anything you want.

Can you show me in the hunting regulations where it's prohibited?

-J-

EDIT: Remembered that I emailed someone at the Division of Fish & Wildlife about this very thing not too long ago.

The response is this:

Full metal jacketed bullets are not legal to use for hunting deer with a handgun (see Indiana Administrative Code 312 IAC 9-3-3d). They are legal to use when hunting furbearers such as coyotes and foxes, squirrels, and for hunting deer with a rifle (not a handgun).

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

[FONT=&quot]Linnea Petercheff
Operations Staff Specialist
Division of Fish and Wildlife
402 W. Washington Street, Room W273
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: (317) 233-6527
Fax: (317) 232-8150[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]


So, it would seem that we're both right. You CAN use them out of a rifle, you cannot use them out of a handgun.

 

[yotewacker]

I would not hunt with anyone who uses FMJ. Very poor attitude and makes no sense to make the animal suffer.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

I would not hunt with anyone who uses FMJ. Very poor attitude and makes no sense to make the animal suffer.

What if you're hunting Cape Buffalo in Africa?

 

[singlestacksig]

Can you show me in the hunting regulations where it's prohibited?

-J-

EDIT: Remembered that I emailed someone at the Division of Fish & Wildlife about this very thing not too long ago.

The response is this:

Full metal jacketed bullets are not legal to use for hunting deer with a handgun (see Indiana Administrative Code 312 IAC 9-3-3d). They are legal to use when hunting furbearers such as coyotes and foxes, squirrels, and for hunting deer with a rifle (not a handgun).

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

[FONT=&quot]Linnea Petercheff
Operations Staff Specialist
Division of Fish and Wildlife
402 W. Washington Street, Room W273
Indianapolis, IN 46204
Phone: (317) 233-6527
Fax: (317) 232-8150[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]


So, it would seem that we're both right. You CAN use them out of a rifle, you cannot use them out of a handgun.

Agreed, it seems that when they added the code for PCR they put the bullet restrictions with handguns only..
hopefully they correct that in the new regs.

 

[singlestacksig]

What if you're hunting Cape Buffalo in Africa?

nothing in North America needs FMJ or solids..

 

[shibumiseeker]

nothing in North America needs FMJ or solids..

What if you are pistol hunting hogs or bear?

 

[singlestacksig]

i don't think either is considered thick skinned like Cape or rhino.
maybe a front head shot on a hog needs a solid..

 

[yotewacker]

What if you're hunting Cape Buffalo in Africa?

If you think you need a FMJ your wrong. You need a bigger gun or better shot placement. I'ts not about how many shots it takes to down an animal. But, how few and how quick it dies.

I was told when President Roosevelt use to hunt. If you shoot an elephant with the right gun. When the gun goes off, you both hit the ground. The elephant from the bullet and you from recoil. Whoever stands back up first wins.

 

[Indy_Guy_77]

If you think you need a FMJ your wrong. You need a bigger gun or better shot placement. I'ts not about how many shots it takes to down an animal. But, how few and how quick it dies.

I was told when President Roosevelt use to hunt. If you shoot an elephant with the right gun. When the gun goes off, you both hit the ground. The elephant from the bullet and you from recoil. Whoever stands back up first wins.

Of course, in Africa, there are rules/regs/laws that stipulate that when you're hunting dangerous game, your bullet must be .350" or larger and not a hollow point...

Stating that you won't hunt with someone who doesn't use hollow points is, in my opinion, downright ignorant for much depends on what you're hunting and where you're hunting it.

Use what YOU want when you're hunting. Let others use what THEY want. Provided, of course, that no parties are breaking applicable laws.

Kind of like the CC vs OC debate, eh?

-J-