Would hollow points work for hunting?

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  • yotewacker

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    Of course, in Africa, there are rules/regs/laws that stipulate that when you're hunting dangerous game, your bullet must be .350" or larger and not a hollow point...

    Stating that you won't hunt with someone who doesn't use hollow points is, in my opinion, downright ignorant for much depends on what you're hunting and where you're hunting it.

    Use what YOU want when you're hunting. Let others use what THEY want. Provided, of course, that no parties are breaking applicable laws.

    Kind of like the CC vs OC debate, eh?

    -J-

    I know several guys that go to Africa every year to hunt. They always take Nosler boat tails.(soft points).
    i ask them and they said there is no such regulation or law on FMJ.
    Please don't try to bull s*** me. I shoot and hunt very often and have been there done that. I probably have at least 20 years on you. I regularly hunt to 600 yards.
     

    jmiller676

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    I know several guys that go to Africa every year to hunt. They always take Nosler boat tails.(soft points).
    i ask them and they said there is no such regulation or law on FMJ.
    Please don't try to bull s*** me. I shoot and hunt very often and have been there done that. I probably have at least 20 years on you. I regularly hunt to 600 yards.

    From the pictures you posted on your yotes I'll take your word for it. :D
     

    Indy_Guy_77

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    I know several guys that go to Africa every year to hunt. They always take Nosler boat tails.(soft points).
    i ask them and they said there is no such regulation or law on FMJ.
    Please don't try to bull s*** me. I shoot and hunt very often and have been there done that. I probably have at least 20 years on you. I regularly hunt to 600 yards.

    Ahhh... But do they hunt dangerous game?

    Big difference between hunting a gazelle and a cape buffalo.

    With one, a hollow point would be ideal. With the other...not so much.

    -J-
     

    hammer24

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    Would a hollow point work for taking down a deer/hog?

    Short answer: YES
    Longer answer: It's a very vague question. Caliber? Bullet weight? Velocity? Expected distance of shot? Bullet construction? Pistol or rifle? All of these variable are important in bullet choice, but ASSUMING you're talking about a proven deer/hog (since that is what you're asking about) caliber then yes hollow points or polymer tipped will work. If it is a smaller caliber at high velocity a jacketed soft point or more solid construction may work better if you're wanting to shoot big hogs. I use hornady 240 XTP's in .44 mag.
     

    Willie

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    Can you show me in the hunting regulations where it's prohibited?

    -J-

    EDIT: Remembered that I emailed someone at the Division of Fish & Wildlife about this very thing not too long ago.

    The response is this:

    Full metal jacketed bullets are not legal to use for hunting deer with a handgun (see Indiana Administrative Code 312 IAC 9-3-3d). They are legal to use when hunting furbearers such as coyotes and foxes, squirrels, and for hunting deer with a rifle (not a handgun).

    If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me.

    Sincerely,

    [FONT=&quot]Linnea Petercheff [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Operations Staff Specialist [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Division of Fish and Wildlife [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]402 W. Washington Street, Room W273 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Indianapolis, IN 46204 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Phone: (317) 233-6527 [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Fax: (317) 232-8150[/FONT]


    So, it would seem that we're both right. You CAN use them out of a rifle, you cannot use them out of a handgun.

    Ms. Percheff is the lady with the answers. She knows more about Indiana game regulations (and how they come about) that ANYONE in the DNR.

    In addition to being a fine lady she is also a deer hunter. :rockwoot:
     

    shibumiseeker

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    Ms. Percheff is the lady with the answers. She knows more about Indiana game regulations (and how they come about) that ANYONE in the DNR.

    In addition to being a fine lady she is also a deer hunter. :rockwoot:
    It's sad you had to add the underlined portion. It should be that EVERYONE in the DNR knows the regulations thoroughly, and if not then they are needlessly complex when their employees can't even get it right half the time.
     

    Yeah

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    I know several guys that go to Africa every year to hunt. They always take Nosler boat tails.(soft points).
    i ask them and they said there is no such regulation or law on FMJ.
    Please don't try to bull s*** me. I shoot and hunt very often and have been there done that. I probably have at least 20 years on you. I regularly hunt to 600 yards.

    I actually am a guy that goes to Africa to hunt, and where there are regs they spec a 0.375" minimum for anything classed as Dangerous Game and no, no hollow point or FMJ prohibition.

    Most PHs and local hunters will put people on to expanding bullets of good construction, and most of those have holes in their points. Barnes TSX and Frontier Spartans are high on the list. Swift A Frames rate, for cup and core.

    You seldom find them recommending solids, especially for herd animals because a guy with one spot who skewers two animals is in for, at best, a financial surprise. The guys backing you up will be running solids because their primary concern is keeping you from being killed by animals.

    There is a difference between a killing bullet and a stopping bullet. The former needs to expand and retain weight reliably, and can give up a little penetration to do so. The latter needs to break as many bones as it can touch, to put noses in the dirt and prevent death in the hunting party, A buffalo with two smashed shoulders will fall down but live long enough for the lions to find it. With two smashed lungs it can die sooner but remain ambulatory until that happens.

    For everything in NA a guy can kill both birds with the same stone by picking a well constructed bullet that can get through bones and organs both, and anchor game in place.

    As always and to be purposely repetitive, construction is everything when it comes to bullets.
     
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