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    Well, it appears at least the Pearl shooter is gonna provide some anti gun fodder! You donít like red flag laws, this is what you get when you donít have red flag laws!

    https://taskandpurpose.com/pearl-har...r-uss-columbia

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    We lost three very young people who were just starting out in life and their lives in the military.

    Also, NORTHCOM ordered the barn door to be shut occasionally after the horse got out.

    Navy IDs 3 victims of NAS Pensacola shooting; military calls for increased security checks


    U.S. Northern Command (Northcom) has called for increased random security checks at all sites across Northern Command following the deadly shootings at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Hawaii and Naval Air Station (NAS) Pensacola in Florida.

    The Navy on Saturday identified the three victims of the NAS Pensacola shooting as Ensign Joshua Kaleb Watson, 23, of Coffee, Ala.; Airman Mohammed Sameh Haitham, 19, of St. Petersburg, Fla.; and Airman Apprentice Cameron Scott Walters, 21, of Richmond Hill, Ga.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/pensacola...ecurity-checks
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vigilant View Post
    Well, it appears at least the Pearl shooter is gonna provide some anti gun fodder! You donít like red flag laws, this is what you get when you donít have red flag laws!

    https://taskandpurpose.com/pearl-har...r-uss-columbia
    While I will always defer to Act on submarine issues, I think it's safe to say problems don't get better when in a steel tube under water.

    I don't remember reading anywhere, how long had the boat been in dry dock?
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  4. #54
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    Are they seriously going with this?

    Of the 10 Saudi trainees reportedly detained, three of them are the ones from the dinner party who claimed they were only filming the shooting because they happened to be there at the time and wanted to capture the moment, the U.S. official told the New York Times.



    In the days since the attack, a U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity after being briefed by federal authorities told the Associated Press that a total of 10 Saudi students were being held on the base as of Saturday while several others were unaccounted for.


    While officials have not publicly disclosed how many missing servicemen are out there, U.S. Northern Command (Northcom) has called for increased random security checks at all sites as authorities investigating the attack are still working to determine whether it was an act of terrorism,

    "Given the recent attacks at two military installations, the Commander, U.S. Northern Command has directed all DoD [Defense Department] installations, facilities and units within the U.S. Northern Command area of responsibility to immediately assess force protection measures and implement increased random security measures appropriate for their facilities,Ē Lt. Cmdr. Michael Hatfield told Fox News on Saturday.


    "The advisory also told leaders to remind their workforce to remain alert and if they see something, to say something by immediately reporting to appropriate authorities any suspicious activity they may observe," Hatfield continued.


    On Saturday, a U.S. official told the Associated Press that Alshamrani hosted a dinner party earlier in the week where he and three others watched videos of mass shootings.


    The official who spoke Saturday said one of the three students who attended the dinner party hosted by the attacker recorded video outside the classroom building while the shooting was taking place on Friday. Two other Saudi students watched from a car, the official said.


    In the weeks leading up to the shooting, Alshamrani and the same three other Saudi military trainees made a visit to New York City where they went to several museums and Rockefeller Center, a person briefed on the investigation told the New York Times.


    Federal investigators are now focused on whether the trip was an extended tourist trip during the Thanksgiving holiday week or if the group of Saudi trainees had other motives or were meeting with anyone else in New York, according to The Times. Of the 10 Saudi trainees reportedly detained, three of them are the ones from the dinner party who claimed they were only filming the shooting because they happened to be there at the time and wanted to capture the moment, the U.S. official told the New York Times.


    https://www.foxnews.com/us/missing-s...york-city-trip
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  5. #55
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    What is the motive for not calling this terrorism what it is?
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    What is the motive for not calling this terrorism what it is?
    Wouldnt push forward the gun control narrative for one.

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    They just had a press release. The FBI lady in charge did not inspire confidence that we are getting all the information, with me anyway.

    They insisted that the threat is over and they have 100% accountability of all the Saudi military on that base.

    They are "treating it as" terrorism, but still won't readily call it that.

    The shooter used a G45, bought legally. Didn't say how it was legal for a foreign national to buy a gun here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    What is the motive for not calling this terrorism what it is?
    Iran. Sad that not wanting to upset the Saudis makes us bend into pretzels to not call terrorism, terrorism. The president hasn't even addressed this in the way he would've, if it had been anyplace else, with people affiliated with different groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwframe View Post
    They just had a press release. The FBI lady in charge did not inspire confidence that we are getting all the information, with me anyway.

    They insisted that the threat is over and they have 100% accountability of all the Saudi military on that base.

    They are "treating it as" terrorism, but still won't readily call it that.

    The shooter used a G45, bought legally. Didn't say how it was legal for a foreign national to buy a gun here.
    It's legal and it has been for years.
    It's why when you fill up a form 4473 to purchase a firearm they ask for your country of citizenship, and not just if you're a US citizen or not.

    Permanent residents can buy a gun just like a US citizen can, and get a licence to carry.
    Some people on a non-immigrant visa can also buy firearms and ammunition if they have a hunting licence.
    Depending on how long they stay in the country some non-US-citizens can qualify as a state resident.
    Usually people with a long-stay visa over 90 days like students, and in that case probably foreign military members.

    https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...earms.pdf/view

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    It's legal and it has been for years.
    It's why when you fill up a form 4473 to purchase a firearm they ask for your country of citizenship, and not just if you're a US citizen or not.

    Permanent residents can buy a gun just like a US citizen can, and get a licence to carry.
    Some people on a non-immigrant visa can also buy firearms and ammunition if they have a hunting licence.
    Depending on how long they stay in the country some non-US-citizens can qualify as a state resident.
    Usually people with a long-stay visa over 90 days like students, and in that case probably foreign military members.

    https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/...earms.pdf/view
    Non-resident hunting license in Florida is $151.50

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