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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper Jim View Post
    Cop calling is not a 100% given. Depends on each situation as to if I want to expose myself to lawyers, court, testifying etc for a transient scumbag. Have to hope the neighbors are on top of things as I can't save everybody.
    Thats not my point. Not my point at all.

    How is letting the local LEO know there is some questionable activity afoot going to subject you to the system.
    Agreed it depends on the situation. But if you deem it needed to get the wife to a safe area and arm up then yeah.......make the call.
    Looking out for the neighbors is a round robin deal. We watch out for them and they watch out for us. When we can.

    Did you not actually read what I posted. A simple call "Might" have saved my buddys new truck from the damage that was done. Possibly not but yes, if there is some odd crap going on then make the call.

    This is just 1 situation I have seen from ignoring the world outside your door.

    No worries fellas. Just making what I see as a solid point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Thats not my point. Not my point at all.

    How is letting the local LEO know there is some questionable activity afoot going to subject you to the system.
    Agreed it depends on the situation. But if you deem it needed to get the wife to a safe area and arm up then yeah.......make the call.
    Looking out for the neighbors is a round robin deal. We watch out for them and they watch out for us. When we can.

    Did you not actually read what I posted. A simple call "Might" have saved my buddys new truck from the damage that was done. Possibly not but yes, if there is some odd crap going on then make the call.

    This is just 1 situation I have seen from ignoring the world outside your door.

    No worries fellas. Just making what I see as a solid point.
    Agreed. And if you just arent sure, call the non emergency number and tell dispatch what's up. They'll kick it up to the 911 dispatchers if they think its really important. (firsthand experience)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rvb View Post
    We call the cops every time a looser gets the house wrong and should have been next door? Was he threatening? He said he was waving.
    And we wonder why the cops are so busy it takes them 15 min to respond.....
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    When a shirtless man is trying to open your door, and your three young children and wife are there, you certainly donít go to the door and ask the fine gentleman, ďAre you by chance a loser who just got the wrong house? Iím sorry to have been frightened by you in the middle of the night. Please have a good evening.Ē Circumstantially,
    you seem to assume I realized he was a drunk who was friends with a neighbor, processed it and then wasted the police time for calling them.
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    Guns hidden throughout the home.. reminds me of an episode of Psych where detective Lassiter has guns hidden all over.

    Of course, I can't find it on YouTube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Thats not my point. Not my point at all.

    How is letting the local LEO know there is some questionable activity afoot going to subject you to the system.
    Agreed it depends on the situation. But if you deem it needed to get the wife to a safe area and arm up then yeah.......make the call.
    Looking out for the neighbors is a round robin deal. We watch out for them and they watch out for us. When we can.

    Did you not actually read what I posted. A simple call "Might" have saved my buddys new truck from the damage that was done. Possibly not but yes, if there is some odd crap going on then make the call.

    This is just 1 situation I have seen from ignoring the world outside your door.

    No worries fellas. Just making what I see as a solid point.
    i am glad that you have a great neighborhood watch system and everybody is comfortable. However it is been my experience that not all neighborhoods are as warm and friendly as yours. You might be surprised that in the real world of ingoers many do not even know anything about their neighbors or care to for that matter.

    Also I hope you never have to hear from the police .....please Mr. mouse come down to the station and look at these photos and pick scum bag out of a lineup for us.


    Just saying it is never black and white on calling the police.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper Jim View Post
    i am glad that you have a great neighborhood watch system and everybody is comfortable. However it is been my experience that not all neighborhoods are as warm and friendly as yours. You might be surprised that in the real world of ingoers many do not even know anything about their neighbors or care to for that matter.

    Also I hope you never have to hear from the police .....please Mr. mouse come down to the station and look at these photos and pick scum bag out of a lineup for us.


    Just saying it is never black and white on calling the police.
    I would go. In a heartbeat. I have before. So what is the fear in this. Retribution...???
    I do not understand your feelings in this but like I said, they are yours. I am good with that but even if you were my neighbor I would watch out for you even if it was not a shared thing.

    The real world....really. I live in it. Right smack dab in the middle of it. 2 older single ladys live right across the street. We do all we can for them. They watch our homes. My daughter , her significant other and the terrorists in my avatar live in the house to the north of us. Neighbors to the north and south of us have security cameras as well as we do. We have the area covered. Completely. That is our watch system.
    Yes we live in the real world my friend.

    My area has seen a time it was anything but warm. Shootouts in the streets. But that dynamic has changed a lot. Thanks in part to the local LEO and the people that have displaced the bad elements. Pretty quite around here these days. But those times taught us a lot.

    Putting your head in the sand is not what we choose to do. We live here. We are part of the area. Agree or not it is what we choose to do living in the real world.

    Be safe.
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    Just saying it is never black and white on calling the police.[/QUOTE]


    Perhaps my bad in not making point clear. I am not talking about any one incident or persons relationship or involvement with his community.each one of has different social skills. I am saying that each call and case is different and a Prepped doctrine may have to be altered in progress as to avoid a Conditioned Result that the homeowner does not want for him or his families endangerment. I wish the legal system worked like it is supposed to. But it hasnít been perfect in my world. Scumbag gets questioned. Scumbag released at local Dennyís, scumbag comes back for revenge.

    Not burying head in sand but being VERY aware and deciding if the means justify the end in each case. When the homeowner has to spend thousands of dollars to Perry Mason for a misunderstanding, the family hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trapper Jim View Post
    Just saying it is never black and white on calling the police.

    Perhaps my bad in not making point clear. I am not talking about any one incident or persons relationship or involvement with his community.each one of has different social skills. I am saying that each call and case is different and a Prepped doctrine may have to be altered in progress as to avoid a Conditioned Result that the homeowner does not want for him or his families endangerment. I wish the legal system worked like it is supposed to. But it hasnít been perfect in my world. Scumbag gets questioned. Scumbag released at local Dennyís, scumbag comes back for revenge.

    Not burying head in sand but being VERY aware and deciding if the means justify the end in each case. When the homeowner has to spend thousands of dollars to Perry Mason for a misunderstanding, the family hurts.[/QUOTE]



    It is a sad thing that we have to make these judgement calls in this society. The legal system in the end can be the enemy. I do see your point but also hope you see mine.
    I would hope the system would work when we are forced to use it. Taking these idiots off the streets but yes, I see your point. While I may not fully agree with it I do see it.

    At some point we have to take a stand. The only way I could really explain would be over coffee. To share on the internet is not always the best way. The printed word just does not carry the weight.

    Be safe.
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    OC at home except in bed and then in bed holster.

    New door! If you are going yo frost it you are losing the benefit of being able to see through it anyway.

    The Larsen security storm door is a VG product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Perhaps my bad in not making point clear. I am not talking about any one incident or persons relationship or involvement with his community.each one of has different social skills. I am saying that each call and case is different and a Prepped doctrine may have to be altered in progress as to avoid a Conditioned Result that the homeowner does not want for him or his families endangerment. I wish the legal system worked like it is supposed to. But it hasnít been perfect in my world. Scumbag gets questioned. Scumbag released at local Dennyís, scumbag comes back for revenge.

    Not burying head in sand but being VERY aware and deciding if the means justify the end in each case. When the homeowner has to spend thousands of dollars to Perry Mason for a misunderstanding, the family hurts.

    Yes I do see where you are coming from that is why I use the terms "not always"

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    It is a sad thing that we have to make these judgement calls in this society. The legal system in the end can be the enemy. I do see your point but also hope you see mine.
    I would hope the system would work when we are forced to use it. Taking these idiots off the streets but yes, I see your point. While I may not fully agree with it I do see it.

    At some point we have to take a stand. The only way I could really explain would be over coffee. To share on the internet is not always the best way. The printed word just does not carry the weight.

    Be safe.[/QUOTE]
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