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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    What happens when Trump decides ubi would make him more popular and comes out in favor of it

    Although I rate that as highly unlikely, I get it - it's your schtick to find something to criticize Trump for, even if he hasn't ever done it

    What happens is, nothing changes. He's still far superior to any Democrat running or likely to run

    ETA: What's going to happen when Harris comes out in favor of sleeping her way to the top - will all the candidates have to develop round heels? See, anybody can play that game
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugI02 View Post
    Although I rate that as highly unlikely, I get it - it's your schtick to find something to criticize Trump for, even if he hasn't ever done it

    What happens is, nothing changes. He's still far superior to any Democrat running or likely to run

    ETA: What's going to happen when Harris comes out in favor of sleeping her way to the top - will all the candidates have to develop round heels? See, anybody can play that game
    This seems.... hostile?

    Would many here have a "schtick" about discussing Obama enacting martial law, busting down doors to take the guns, etc... even if he's never done it?

    It's just conversation. Just because there's nothing we can do about something, doesn't mean we can't talk about it. This forum would be empty if that were the case. Hypotheticals, even if very unlikely, are still exercises in debate... that's healthy.
    Let that be my contrarian reply...

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    From my POV, we have plenty of actual problems that people can and do blame Trump for without going into what ifs

    What if JLudo turns out to be a progressive communist sock puppet? It's just stupid pot stirring. Has Trump said anything that would give a shred of veracity to that postulate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GPIA7R View Post
    This seems.... hostile?

    Would many here have a "schtick" about discussing Obama enacting martial law, busting down doors to take the guns, etc... even if he's never done it?

    It's just conversation. Just because there's nothing we can do about something, doesn't mean we can't talk about it. This forum would be empty if that were the case. Hypotheticals, even if very unlikely, are still exercises in debate... that's healthy.
    Waiting for "We're better than that" in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
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    Ya there's no ideological reason Trump would oppose it. It would be fun to see those on the far left either give trump kudos or try to find a reason it's bad because trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Ya there's no ideological reason Trump would oppose it...
    One would have to have an ideology.
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  7. #57
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    Socialist malarkey, but I’d be lying if I said some small part of me doesn’t prefer less money in Washington and more in people’s pockets.

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    Over the years, Bill Clinton, Kamala Harris, speculation?
    Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth shattering Kaboom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GPIA7R View Post
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    It's just conversation. Just because there's nothing we can do about something, doesn't mean we can't talk about it. This forum would be empty if that were the case. Hypotheticals, even if very unlikely, are still exercises in debate... that's healthy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Leadeye View Post
    Over the years, Bill Clinton, Kamala Harris, speculation?
    What about 'speculation' and 'debate' about whether Mich(a)el(le) Obama is biologically female or just identifies as such? We were just recently chastised for not toeing the line with respect to that


    Where Trump is concerned, no need to proceed from a factual basis when 'speculating' and 'debating'


    Where INGO is concerned, progressive dogma must not receive pushback or we live in the dreaded 'echo chamber'. People who generally agree with the direction Trump is leading are guilty of 'blind loyalty' because they won't consider every flaw and misstep a game changer and abandon him for a bevy of much more horrible DEM alternatives or a Republican who hasn't proved he would have the backbone to stand where Trump stands and still be fighting to get important things done. SMH


    Edit: "We're better than that" lolz
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  10. #60
    Plinker

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    There's only 2 options for how basic income for all would go.
    Option 1: it gets paid for by taxes and everyone essentially gets nothing because it takes $1000 from each person to give each person $1000.
    Option 2: it is added to our national debt so future generations get to deal with the crippling and out of control debt.

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