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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Not our finest hour.
    So what is your actual point being made here.....?????

    -Are you OK with your area being over ran with cultures that have no desire to assimilate and live exactly as they did in the crap holes they were in.
    We are not "OK" with this

    Why is it on us to let them drain our already strained resources to the point that the medical and other sources we used have been shut down. Why. Please make a solid argument here because to me there is none.
    It's on the United States to clean up the mess because we played a giant role in making the mess. That's my point.

    Same thing for the refugees from Honduras that are currently trying to claim asylum on our southern border.

    If you burn down your neighbors' house, you owe them a house. Same thing if you burn down their country and government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Not our finest hour.
    So what is your actual point being made here.....?????

    -Are you OK with your area being over ran with cultures that have no desire to assimilate and live exactly as they did in the crap holes they were in.
    We are not "OK" with this

    Why is it on us to let them drain our already strained resources to the point that the medical and other sources we used have been shut down. Why. Please make a solid argument here because to me there is none.

    I agree with others that say we should just remove ourselves from these war like areas and let them sort it out but in the end other country's are at play here on the world stage. There is so much more to all of this than we are actually discussing.

    Refugees should be in camps until they 1) learn the language…...2) show they have or gain some skills to be self supporting in this society. 3) and this is a huge one
    with me.....

    "LEARN TO FREAKING DRIVE"

    "LEARN WHAT A LINE IS AN US IT PROPERLY"

    "CUT YOUR GRASS AND KEEP YOUR TRASH IN THE PROVIDED CONTAINERS"

    "1 Family per home".....Not 6.

    I could go on and on and on here but hey.
    So your line of reasoning is like this, "I robbed a bank, so what? I shouldn't be arrested or go to jail."

    Actions have consequences, don't commit the action unless you accept those consequences. Adding extra fluff to it like "But other countries!" doesn't change the fact that those actions still have consequences.

    No I do not want refugees here, therefor I do not want the US engaging in activity that creates them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CampingJosh View Post
    It's on the United States to clean up the mess because we played a giant role in making the mess. That's my point.

    Same thing for the refugees from Honduras that are currently trying to claim asylum on our southern border.

    If you burn down your neighbors' house, you owe them a house. Same thing if you burn down their country and government.





    According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, U.S. investment in Honduras was $1.1 billion for 2016 and $1.1 billion for 2017, largely concentrated in manufacturing, textiles, infrastructure construction, and wholesale trade. U.S. initiatives in international fora generally garner Honduran support.Feb 8, 2019


    And we have an air base in Honduras since 1981 of which employs locals.

    We are doing something, that doesnt mean they need to come here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDude View Post
    According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, U.S. investment in Honduras was $1.1 billion for 2016 and $1.1 billion for 2017, largely concentrated in manufacturing, textiles, infrastructure construction, and wholesale trade. U.S. initiatives in international fora generally garner Honduran support.Feb 8, 2019


    And we have an air base in Honduras since 1981 of which employs locals.

    We are doing something, that doesnt mean they need to come here.
    We funded the overthrow of their democratic government. $120 per person per year doesn't even begin to make up for it.
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    I have learned one thing from this thread. Judlo os not a Libertarian.




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    Quote Originally Posted by CampingJosh View Post
    We funded the overthrow of their democratic government. $120 per person per year doesn't even begin to make up for it.




    You realize this happens all the time by countries all over the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jludo View Post
    Because I believe it's of social and moral benefit. Like I said I can't cure a sick child of a poor family either but I'm willing to pay my taxes, give to charity and am willing to send armed men to rob you of your resources to pay for someone else to.
    Ah. Another progressive statist. (Please pardon my redundancy).

    Excuse me while I try to put on my "I'm shocked" face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed View Post
    Ah. Another progressive statist. (Please pardon my redundancy).

    Excuse me while I try to put on my "I'm shocked" face.
    Just heterodox in my views. Not everyone fits into neat categories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameramonkey View Post
    OK, Boomer.

    Is this the same one, or a different one that will tell all the convenience store owners to close down and take up arms against us?

    Dude, the Hmong are here because they are the enemy of multiple totalitarian regimes over there.
    So what you're saying is the Hmongs are here because they can't get along with pretty much anybody? Sure, why not import them here ? Purple

    For real fo reals yo, between the possibility of ww3 kicking off, the possibility of boogaloo 2020 kicking off, now is seriously not the time to be importing anybody period.

    We might be soon needing everybody that understands what it is to have been born and raised here in this special place.

    That is unless that's all part of the plan of course. The UN is hiring a "Diss armament " specialist in NY .

    If this country is gonna tear itself apart again , I have to wonder where their ( immigrants) loyalties would lay , with the will of the American people or their government ?

    Obviously they weren't willing to fight for or get involved in the politics of their country so IMO , they'll gladly go wherever the handouts are coming from.
    It isn't serendipity , it's willful genocide .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombs View Post
    So your line of reasoning is like this, "I robbed a bank, so what? I shouldn't be arrested or go to jail."

    Actions have consequences, don't commit the action unless you accept those consequences. Adding extra fluff to it like "But other countries!" doesn't change the fact that those actions still have consequences.

    No I do not want refugees here, therefor I do not want the US engaging in activity that creates them.

    It is far too late now. We have already screwed the pooch.



    OK the mouse is reverting back to his old ways. I am going to watch some playoff football and scream at the TV. This is a waste of time and energy.

    Carry on.

    Last edited by churchmouse; 01-05-2020 at 15:41.
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