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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Thanks guys.

    My daughter has been OK with out prepping as she realizes it will be to her benefit and has done a moderate amount on her own. Space being what limits her.
    This pandemic (?) has opened her eyes. She is very much on board now and I am sure will be in the future as well. The vacuum saver was her idea.
    Watch food savers website. They are running specials all the time. Donít overthink it. Get a middle level one to start. Then you will know if you need something else.

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    Donít know if this should go in a separate thread. If so, mods pls let me know.

    Is it bad to store the stuff put in Mylar bags in cardboard boxes? I went that way as we own the boxes and they fit in the space I have. They wonít be jostled around and are in the house, so no rodents to get at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyBeerman View Post
    Food Saver, I researched them well back when Mrs. IBM was alive, she didn't want to buy one, so it never happened. Wish I would have just went and bought one. It can be used for more than food, they make a decent amount of different size bags, plus you can buy a roll and make a custom size length. You can also get a vacuum attachment for canning jars.
    We have the Foodsaver and buy the rolls. Helps save on space to as it compresses. I used it on a guys trip with my clothes and it made packing super easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by dprimm View Post
    Donít know if this should go in a separate thread. If so, mods pls let me know.

    Is it bad to store the stuff put in Mylar bags in cardboard boxes? I went that way as we own the boxes and they fit in the space I have. They wonít be jostled around and are in the house, so no rodents to get at them.
    If you want more details on packing in buckets, you can start/find a new thread, but I'll answer your direct question.

    One of the more common dry food storage methods is to pack food in mylar (which is very good at protecting from air penetration) inside plastic buckets (for stacking, organizing, physical protection and secondary air protection). Oxygen absorbers are put in the individual bag(s) and/or the bucket to pull out as much O2 out as possible and minimize oxidation damage. If you use boxes, you will lose the physical protection from rodents mostly and you will also lose the second layer protection against air penetration if the bag has a leak. A plastic bin would offer the physical protection, but not the same air seal. It might work, but those options are more risky than buckets.

    Personally, I feel it is worth the extra effort/expense to use a bucket. The extra physical protection plus the second layer of air penetration protection (it isn't as good as mylar, but is pretty good) is important. If you have to open the bucket some years down the line because you really need it, it would be crushing to find ruined food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Yes we wanted it because it was allowed to happen. I see your argument. It has merit. But just like the idiocy we face from the hill......who keeps these thieves and liar's in office......We do.

    Rest my case.
    Late to the party, but I had to repost this. Its almost lube no one wants to take responsibility and just blame the other party. They're all equally worthless, and we're there ones that keeping giving them a job.

  6. #396
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phase2 View Post
    If you want more details on packing in buckets, you can start/find a new thread, but I'll answer your direct question.

    One of the more common dry food storage methods is to pack food in mylar (which is very good at protecting from air penetration) inside plastic buckets (for stacking, organizing, physical protection and secondary air protection). Oxygen absorbers are put in the individual bag(s) and/or the bucket to pull out as much O2 out as possible and minimize oxidation damage. If you use boxes, you will lose the physical protection from rodents mostly and you will also lose the second layer protection against air penetration if the bag has a leak. A plastic bin would offer the physical protection, but not the same air seal. It might work, but those options are more risky than buckets.

    Personally, I feel it is worth the extra effort/expense to use a bucket. The extra physical protection plus the second layer of air penetration protection (it isn't as good as mylar, but is pretty good) is important. If you have to open the bucket some years down the line because you really need it, it would be crushing to find ruined food.
    Thankyou. I vacuum sealed and put O2 absorbers in. For now, I will keep w the status quo. For longer term I will move to buckets. The main reason for the delay? I donít want to put more stress into my life. Got enough now. But I see the boxes often enough this wonít get ignored.

    Thanks again.

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    On the foodsavers, I buy the refurbs. New they seem overpriced? Refurbs also makes it cheap enough to have a backup on hand. Pretty handy in the middle of harvest season.

    I have never run two at the same time, but I could see doing it, especially if two folks were working a big job. The backup is certainly good piece of mind. One of my units has quit sealing for no apparent reason.

    Yes, the rolls of bags are the economical way to go.

    I bought both sizes of jar sealers also. Very handy for dehydrated food storage.
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    I have a "seal-a-meal" and it works ok. I buy the individual bags and the roll.

    Regarding food in a mylar bag with an O2 absorber I think it's a solid way to go. The foundation of my preparations are from beprepared.com and what they call a "superpail". Yeah I could have saved a few bucks and done it myself. For the 30yr insurance policy that this food is intended for I wanted to know it was all done correctly by someone who's done more of it in a day then I ever will in a lifetime. I think it's the most economical way to prepare ahead of time with nutritious food that doesn't need cycled out yearly.

    I got my garden seeds for this year and got a few extra packs while I was at it. With all the kids sports activities that normally take our time away from gardening this year it will become a focus since all the sports are cancelled. We live on a few acres, and I've been talking with my wife about renting a tractor with a grader box, and get some dump trucks of garden soil to put in an even bigger bed out in the backyard. It may be overkill, but I'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it. My intent is to make sure nobody starves if it can be prevented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchmouse View Post
    Daughter is looking at a vacuum sealer.

    Whats good in these.
    I'v had the one that Sam's usually carries for 25+ yrs. Replacement teflon tape and heating elements are available , still, on the internet. Cabelas also carries some heavy duty units. Buy extra bag material when you get it. You can use it for a lot of prep-able stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dprimm View Post
    Donít know if this should go in a separate thread. If so, mods pls let me know.

    Is it bad to store the stuff put in Mylar bags in cardboard boxes? I went that way as we own the boxes and they fit in the space I have. They wonít be jostled around and are in the house, so no rodents to get at them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phase2 View Post
    If you want more details on packing in buckets, you can start/find a new thread, but I'll answer your direct question.

    One of the more common dry food storage methods is to pack food in mylar (which is very good at protecting from air penetration) inside plastic buckets (for stacking, organizing, physical protection and secondary air protection). Oxygen absorbers are put in the individual bag(s) and/or the bucket to pull out as much O2 out as possible and minimize oxidation damage. If you use boxes, you will lose the physical protection from rodents mostly and you will also lose the second layer protection against air penetration if the bag has a leak. A plastic bin would offer the physical protection, but not the same air seal. It might work, but those options are more risky than buckets.

    Personally, I feel it is worth the extra effort/expense to use a bucket. The extra physical protection plus the second layer of air penetration protection (it isn't as good as mylar, but is pretty good) is important. If you have to open the bucket some years down the line because you really need it, it would be crushing to find ruined food.
    Well if you buy buckets, i would stay clear of the Food safe ones from Menards, most of the ones I have bought from there and but the gamma lids on the bottom has split. I'm not sure if there is a better source but I'm not impressed with that brand thus far. I don't recall the brand but I think they were made in New Waterford, Ohio.


    Here is the bucket I am speaking of

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