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    Benny

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    No problem. I just hope nobody splits the supplies up as I'm putting the items together as a kit. I know how hard it was going to school without.

    Since you bought a back pack, I'm sure you could organize all the supplies in there and just make a note that you would like this to go to one lucky kid and not get split up.:twocents:
     

    Que

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    Thank you sir!
    My wife is a teacher, and we wish more people were like you.
    I'm not sure if the $$$ we budget each year for her classroom counts as welfare for the masses :rolleyes: But we do it to make sure her kids can do their work, and graduate.
    -Andy

    Andy, where does your wife teach? My wife is a teacher in Decatur (DDA). She moved from the H.S. about three years ago. I can get some supplies for her classroom if she still needs some.
     

    E5RANGER375

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    The city gives the Pacers, aka over paid thugs making totally way to much money while holding the city hostage, $33 MILLION dollars to stay 3 more years while the Libraries and Schools are going belly up. We, the tax payers, are still paying for the facilities these pro teams play in and are getting nothing in return. The players/owners are making millions and crying for more. Sorry but I can barely pay my own bills let alone give to things that should have been covered with my tax dollars. Everytime I get gasoline I see a new Lottery game, weren't these revenues supposed to help fund schools and repair roads? Schools are terrible and roads suck! They make millions off the Lottery in this state, Where is the money? Sorry, mini rant over...


    kids cant vote yet. sports fans do, plus they drink a lot :laugh:

    public school is a joke and my daughter will NEVER attend public school.
     

    E5RANGER375

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    No problem. I just hope nobody splits the supplies up as I'm putting the items together as a kit. I know how hard it was going to school without.


    nice of you to try and help those less fortunate. but in all honesty by the time a needy child gets it, the teachers will have picked over it themselves. so by the time the kid gets it it will just be the bag and a number 2 pencil probly.

    a lot of teachers in these schools are just as dumb as the kids parents who cant feed their kids because of lazyness.
     

    hornadylnl

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    Maybe if schools spent a just a small fraction on actual classroom education as they do fancy buildings and sports, they might have enough stuff to go around. And just maybe if they focused on education and not sports and indoctrination, the kids might learn something.

    But we are getting exactly what the people are asking for. Who is John Galt?
     

    hornadylnl

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    What our schools are doing would be no different than a guy getting paid on Friday and cashing his check at the bar and closing it down. Then on Monday morning, he goes to his boss and sings a sad song about how he doesn't have enough money to feed his children.

    What's more emotionally appealing, a guy who pays all of his bills and feeds his children first who then asks his boss for a raise because he can't afford a new boat? Or the guy who is irresponsible with his money and cries because his kids are starving? In the land of big boys and girls, the irresponsible guy gets told by his boss to get f'd and not to let the door hit him in the rear on his way out the door. In government, we keep reelecting these people and fall for their crocodile tears.

    I was listening to Laura Ingraham one time and she was playing sound bites from the idiot moms standing in line waiting to see Twilight New Moon. These women (I use that term loosely) were lunatics. Laura went on to say something to the effect that we are giving of our time and resources to try to salvage this country for this(referring to idiots like these twi moms)? The majority of this country don't deserve liberty. Because of the majority, we all are suffering. Who is John Galt?
     

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    nice of you to try and help those less fortunate. but in all honesty by the time a needy child gets it, the teachers will have picked over it themselves. so by the time the kid gets it it will just be the bag and a number 2 pencil probly.

    a lot of teachers in these schools are just as dumb as the kids parents who cant feed their kids because of laz[STRIKE]y[/STRIKE]iness.

    Anyone who wants to donate and is worried about how the items are distributed can organize a give-away through the school's PTO/PTA.

    All teachers are not dumb, but I would agree there are many lazy parents. The greatest indicator I see are parents who never attempt to make their schools better. They complain about their students' grades, but refuse to visit the classroom more than twice a year. They depend on the teacher to teach, but will not provide supplemental instruction at home. That seems to be the least they can do, since it's supposed to be the home that provides the teaching and the teacher the supplemental instruction.

    Public school isn't the right environment for everyone, but I've always believed that it's my role to TRY to make my schools better through mentoring and other avenues.
     

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    nice of you to try and help those less fortunate. but in all honesty by the time a needy child gets it, the teachers will have picked over it themselves. so by the time the kid gets it it will just be the bag and a number 2 pencil probly.

    a lot of teachers in these schools are just as dumb as the kids parents who cant feed their kids because of lazyness.

    My son's pediatrician was telling me how a year(or two or three) ago he had prescribed Adderall to one of his patients and the teacher was giving it to one of her students she thought "needed" it more.:n00b:

    Maybe if schools spent a just a small fraction on actual classroom education as they do fancy buildings and sports, they might have enough stuff to go around. And just maybe if they focused on education and not sports and indoctrination, the kids might learn something.

    But we are getting exactly what the people are asking for. Who is John Galt?

    I agree with the fancy buildings part, but a lot of the time sports help fund the school.
     

    Que

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    My son's pediatrician was telling me how a year(or two or three) ago he had prescribed Adderall to one of his patients and the teacher was giving it to one of her students she thought "needed" it more.:n00b:



    I agree with the fancy buildings part, but a lot of the time sports help fund the school.

    I understand this in higher-education, but how does it apply in K-12? It's not that I don't believe you, but I'm not aware of the connection.

    These facilities are built because there are only 5-6 parents at the board meetings when the votes take place. Or, there are hundreds of parents who want their "Billy" to play in the facilities that will get him noticed by the big-time recruiters.
     

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    Since you bought a back pack, I'm sure you could organize all the supplies in there and just make a note that you would like this to go to one lucky kid and not get split up.:twocents:

    Won't be buying anything until Friday morning most likely. Leaving a note has crossed my mind.

    Here's the items:

    Backpack $15
    Calculator $8
    5 Mead 5-Star SYN Folders $9
    Crayola Crayons 64ct $6
    Pencils 20ct $3
    Mead 5-Star Notebook $3
    Pens $3
    Electric Pencil Sharpener $7
    Elmer's Gel Glue $3
    Elmer's Gel Glue Stick $3
    Ruler $3
    Fiskars Scissors $4
    Fiskars Compass $3
    Bic White-Out $2
    Kleenex Tissue $2

    I know, I could probably cut the cost by 50% if I bought generic items. I either go all out or don't go at all. Besides I know how rough kids are with their stuff and all of these items are built to take a beating.
     
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    Wow, so you would rather perpetuate the big govt. system of welfare rather than participate in charity where it should be, the private sector.

    ABSOLUTELY. If you guys want to endorse a system that has and is completely failing OUR AMERICAN youths, then have at it.

    I will not support anymore than what my tyrannical communist Government forces me to do.

    I give to charity, on a private level, to those who I feel can benefit from it, and will be grateful for it; Not some kids who will NOT be grateful, who will undoubtedly never graduate HS, and commit they're life to the typical life expected of them.


    So Mr. Big Bad Aryan brotherhood light, must have never, ever needed a hand from anyone else in his life, great you get a gold star for the day.

    :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

    I have needed a 'hand' in my life, but that hand was given by family. NOBODY ELSE. NO GOVERNMENT.

    Use your brain. Those kids are failures from the start. IF THEY'RE PARENTS gave a rats **** about an Education, then Beer, pack of smokes, drugs, and other vice habits would not come first.

    Again, you will do nothing for these kids, when you allow them to believe that they can expect Society to pick up after them.



    What, didn't Oden, Thor, Gandolph the Gray, or whoever it is that shaped your moral compass ever teach charity?

    Dont mock my religion. You'd definitely feel quite bad, If I started to mock your beliefs, spiritual, athiest etc.

    And dont shape me into bad guy, for understanding that this charity is failed from the start.

    We have the Nine Noble Virtues, which do steem from our 'versions' of the bible (For the better understanding of all here).

    It's unquestionable that Public School is turning out, quite possibly the dumbest generation on the world.
    But is further unquestionable, is that if you want to grow a strong sense of Anti-Americanism, Anti-Heritage, pro communism points of view, send your kids to Public School.

    YOU WANT TO ENDORSE THAT? GO RIGHT AHEAD, BUT DONT ATTACK ME FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE HERD.

    And furthermore, who are you, better yet, what makes you so qualified to judge my morality? My Compass?

    Im just curious what might make you holier than thou?

    Do you know me? What I've done? My personal volunteer work? My giving MY MONEY?
    What money I did have.



    Donating a backpack full of school supplies is a very easy thing to do to make a huge difference for a little kid.

    Well, I dont play the lottery, because I most likely win, and I HATE throwing away money on such a GAMBLE.

    What difference donating a pack of supplies is a gamble. Both in the ability, and the integrity of the Public School, which in my experience are 9 out 10, producing wickedly stupid people.

    Sorry, but what money I have, will go to MY offspring, and ensuring that THEY can survive.

    A 6 year old kid didn't force the PS system on you or talk his parents into not looking for a job, and I'm pretty sure he didn't fill out their welfare forms. :cool::twocents:


    Not my problem.


    That cow I ate last night probably didnt want to die to be a meal for me and my family, but you know what, it's dead.

    If the kid felt so inclined for School, then perhaps he could work for his supplies, instead of spending the summer screwing off.

    I remember in my childhood, I'd work an entire week, for a $7 toy. Pulling weeds, etc.
    THAT IS LIFE.


    YOU WORK TO BETTER YOURSELF, TO GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.

    You talk about my moral compass, foolishly.

    Here's one you could probably learn something from.


    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]INDUSTRIOUSNESS[/FONT] Industriousness is the willingness to work hard, always striving for efficiency, as a joyous activity in itself. It is vital that we work hard at what we seek to achieve, for without consistent and well-directed effort, our goals will not be reached. But it does not mean that we should work all the time, indeed one should be industrious in ones leisure pursuits as well, and avoid the concept of making work for the sake of having work to do.


    The virtue of industriousness means working hard, and taking pride in one's work, but it also goes beyond that. Are you employed, disabled, or a full-time student? If not, get a job. Are you part of a Kindred? If not, join one, or find some like-minded people and start one, be the person that "gets things done. This attitude will carry over to your spiritual life, as well. Do your work carefully, pridefully, and well.
    Truly we are worthless if we cannot work to advance our children, to provide better for them in providing the best we can for ourselves...in reaching for high goals, in striving for perfection in all areas of life, we lay that example for our children, as they will for their own...laziness in that endeavor is a true 'sin' and failure to lay rightful layers within the Well, failure to take action, to work towards that greater evolution in self and spirit in all areas of our Being is certainly and evil indeed! We must provide for our Sippen and must work to further our standing in society, which also strengthens it! We must actively contribute to the sustenance of our household and Sippe, just as we must actively contribute to the sustenance of our Irminen-Gesellschaft, Irminic folk overall, and society-at-large in which we live! We cannot simply 'settle' for the mediocre, nor be satisfied in simply surviving- this does nothing to foster growth and commitment to growth, and does nothing to inspire our children to work harder or to achieve or evolve!
    Industriousness went hand in hand with stead-fastness, and was necessary for survival. In ancient times there was always something to do: fields to till, cows to milk, swine to feed, wood to gather. In the mechanized world of today we often forget how hard life was for ancient ancestors. They didn't just go to the fridge and grab a beer. They had to collect the honey (risking being stung by bees), and brew the mead before they could drink it. In ancient times laziness would leave one starving or freezing to death, so naturally individuals with this trait of industriousness were very highly regarded.
    HAVAMAL:
    Cattle die, kindred die,
    Every man is mortal:
    But the good name never dies
    Of one who has does well.

    [FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]SELF RELIANCE[/FONT]Self Reliance is the spirit of independence, which is achieved not only for the individual, but also for the family, clan, tribe and nation. It is not a concept of denying ones interconnectedness with others, but of ensuring that one can take care of oneself first, then ones family and loved ones, then the extended family (clan), the tribe (ones local grouping) and the nation (all true folk no matter where they reside). By being self-reliant we can then share what we have with others and fulfil the duty of Hospitality, the entire better.
    Self-Reliance fits in very well with Industriousness. Don't wait for someone else to do your job for you. Don't wait for the world to be handed to you on a platter. Our ancient Gods and Goddesses favor those who do it themselves. This certainly doesn't mean that you have to do something completely alone if you have no idea how, or if you really just can't do it. What it does mean is that you should learn things from life, learn how to solve common problems, and maybe learn a craft or two. Pick up a book on brewing, or carving, or even plumbing or something. Have a hobby, perhaps one that can make nifty things for your Kindred to use, or for yourself to use. Who knows, you might even be able to sell things and make some extra money. Self-reliance is the key to freedom and freedom is the essence of all joyous life! To need reliance on others, or to be bound in thralldom (SLAVERY) and servitude is worst than death itself! We cannot be satisfied to let others think for us, nor can we be satisfied to let others do what is rightfully our own work to do! Only freedom can strengthen our love for life, and we cannot allow ourselves to be enthralled by need or want, which in turn enthralls our children and folk.
    Only freedom furthers freedom!
    11) A great part of Self reliance is utilizing ones own intellect and Wisdom, Odin is the God of wisdom, and knowledge of every kind was valued. Good kings were often given the appellation "the Wise," and contests of knowledge occur in several of the Edda's stories. Learning was a part of this, as it was the starting point on the road to knowledge and later wisdom. Today this is reflected in the research of modern Heathen scholars do to uncover the Elder Lore. It may be illuminating to note that Odin's self sacrifice on the World tree Yggdrasil was to gain knowledge, not power. Odin’s quest to obtain a drink from Mimer's Well was also to gain wisdom, the ability to use knowledge, foresight and common sense.

    HAVAMAL:
    One's home is best, though small it be
    To each home is hall.
    The heart bleeds in the beggar who must
    Ask at each meal for meat.

    HAVAMAL:
    Wits are needful
    to he who travels far.
    The dull should stay home
    The dull will be mocked,
    who cannot sit with sages.





    To the OP, yes, I will be donating school supplies.

    Good for you.

    Dont complain when

    1). Kids are being taught Anti-American history/heritage
    2). Education is reknowedly dumbed down
    3). The spread of Communist ideals



    HEY FOLKS, INSTEAD OF DONATING TO CONSISTANTLY FAILED ASPECT OF OUR SOCIETY, WHY NOT DONATE TO ASPECTS WHICH CONSISTANTLY PROVE THEMSELVES SUCCESSFUL.

    LIKE PRIVATE SCHOOL
    HOME SCHOOLERS
    Charter Schools

    there are better ways to help children, who will undoubtedly not be a burden to society.
     

    E5RANGER375

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    Based on what criteria, or is this internet opinion?





    I hope you're bringing in a tutor for spelling. :D


    not internet opinion at all. look at statistical fact. public schools are failing the students and not living up to what they say they will do. but they still keep asking for more money.

    i will enroll my daughter in private school or hire a tutor. I can spell when i need to. you must be a teacher??? I know afew who like to always critique others spelling or grammar, but most of their students cant even tell you what the Bill of Rights is, or who our first president was, or who we fought in the revolutionary war. glad they have their priorities straight :rolleyes: winning a spelling contest will realy make you a winner in the real world, lol
     

    WillBrayJr

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    I don't see an issue with helping a child around the age of 10. Keep in mind that no child that age is going to think about buying school supplies for themselves. I'm donating to help a child, and not his/her worthless parents.
     

    Brandon

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    not internet opinion at all. look at statistical fact. public schools are failing the students and not living up to what they say they will do. but they still keep asking for more money.

    i will enroll my daughter in private school or hire a tutor. I can spell when i need to. you must be a teacher??? I know afew who like to always critique others spelling or grammar, but most of their students cant even tell you what the Bill of Rights is, or who our first president was, or who we fought in the revolutionary war. glad they have their priorities straight :rolleyes: winning a spelling contest will realy make you a winner in the real world, lol

    Thank you!!!!!!! I have to admit im the worlds worst speller, but i can honestly care less. I would like to see some of these people who have told me to learn how to spell **** correctly be able to do half the stuff i can do so i dont have to pay a service man/company/dealership/plumber/electrician to come do work for me.

    moving on... what is the big deal about the one person (didnt catch his name) not wanting to donate supplies to PS? I side with him.
     

    WillBrayJr

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    That'd be me. I'm not donating to a school but instead to a child. Not too fond of schools so I'm not about to walk into one and hand over a backpack full of supplies trusting them to give it to a single child.
     

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    My dad was a teacher and administrator, he's retired now and fully back me and my sister in our decisions to home school our (not "our" together, that's creepy) children.
    He became so disconcerted with the system that he retired early, taking a cut in his retirement because he just couldn't take it any longer.
    Did you know the school system gets more money from the State for each kid on "free lunch" and "free books"? They are required to give the forms to everyone that comes in to sign up their kids for school. Government welfare starting early.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with "trying to help a kid in school" by buying them some supplies. But give the stuff directly to the kid, not the school. Of course, "mom and dad" might go sell the stuff on the corner for money to buy drugs or booze....
    The Bible says "the Lord helps those that help themselves" and "to give those in need the opportunity to help themselves" [I'm paraphrasing] It doesn't say to give free stuff to those in need.
     

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    ABSOLUTELY. If you guys want to endorse a system that has and is completely failing OUR AMERICAN youths, then have at it.

    I will not support anymore than what my tyrannical communist Government forces me to do.
    You missed my point by a mile. Donating these supplies is an act of charity by individuals and the private sector, as it should be. Not a mandate by the govt.
    I give to charity, on a private level, to those who I feel can benefit from it, and will be grateful for it; Not some kids who will NOT be grateful, who will undoubtedly never graduate HS, and commit they're life to the typical life expected of them.
    You should paint houses for a living. You could finish the job with one brush stroke.

    :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
    :rolleyes:

    I have needed a 'hand' in my life, but that hand was given by family. NOBODY ELSE. NO GOVERNMENT.
    I said needed a hand, not required govt. assistance. So some 6 year old that can't get what he needs from his family (as you did) should be shunned by any charitable individuals at all costs?

    Use your brain. Those kids are failures from the start. IF THEY'RE PARENTS gave a rats **** about an Education, then Beer, pack of smokes, drugs, and other vice habits would not come first.
    MMM, painting business doing well? Moved up to and an even broader brush I see.

    Again, you will do nothing for these kids, when you allow them to believe that they can expect Society to pick up after them.

    Dont mock my religion. You'd definitely feel quite bad, If I started to mock your beliefs, spiritual, athiest etc.
    Not really, I mock many of my own religion who deserve it.

    And dont shape me into bad guy, for understanding that this charity is failed from the start.
    So when you needed a hand from your family and they helped, they failed you and you failed yourself?

    We have the Nine Noble Virtues, which do steem from our 'versions' of the bible (For the better understanding of all here).

    It's unquestionable that Public School is turning out, quite possibly the dumbest generation on the world.
    But is further unquestionable, is that if you want to grow a strong sense of Anti-Americanism, Anti-Heritage, pro communism points of view, send your kids to Public School.
    YOU WANT TO ENDORSE THAT? GO RIGHT AHEAD, BUT DONT ATTACK ME FOR NOT FOLLOWING THE HERD.
    Whats this got to do with the price of tea in China? Who's to say that they supplies donated are only going to public schools? How is donating school supplies to children in need going to make their situation and chance to learn worse?
    And furthermore, who are you, better yet, what makes you so qualified to judge my morality? My Compass?
    I'm just a guy who's calling you out for your contempt of people, for of all things, donating school supplies for needy children. After all these are children who could use some crayons, pencils or paper for class, not an alcoholic degenerate on the street that has chosen to give up on any semblance of self reliance and responsibility.

    Im just curious what might make you holier than thou?

    Do you know me? NO What I've done?NO My personal volunteer work? My giving MY MONEY? Wait, you said charity was failed from the start, why are you donating your time and effort? And I hope you didn't give your money to someone outside your family, because then your leading "them to believe that they can expect Society to pick up after them."
    What money I did have.

    Well, I dont play the lottery, because I most likely win, and I HATE throwing away money on such a GAMBLE.

    What difference donating a pack of supplies is a gamble. Both in the ability, and the integrity of the Public School, which in my experience are 9 out 10, producing wickedly stupid people.

    Sorry, but what money I have, will go to MY offspring, and ensuring that THEY can survive. And would you have the same mind set if you and your family could no longer care for your offspring? Would you want the rest of society to shun them as you openly profess to shun all other children?

    Not my problem.

    That cow I ate last night probably didnt want to die to be a meal for me and my family, but you know what, it's dead.
    :rolleyes:
    If the kid felt so inclined for School, then perhaps he could work for his supplies, instead of spending the summer screwing off.
    Yes, the lazy masses of 6 and 7 year olds screwing off all summer when they should be worried about their school supplies and how they will afford them. I'm sure if or when your kid(s) were 6 that is precisely what their concerns were/will be.


    I remember in my childhood, I'd work an entire week, for a $7 toy. Pulling weeds, etc.
    No argument from me here, chores and being taught the value of earning a dollar are important.
    THAT IS LIFE.

    YOU WORK TO BETTER YOURSELF, TO GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.
    You do know we are talking about grade school kids and their school supplies. I wasn't thinking about what I needed to do to better myself and community when I was 6 or 7, and I'm pretty certain neither were you.

    You talk about my moral compass, foolishly.

    Here's one you could probably learn something from.

    Good for you.

    Dont complain when

    1). Kids are being taught Anti-American history/heritage
    2). Education is reknowedly dumbed down
    3). The spread of Communist ideals
    Again, this has what to do with donating childrens school supplies?:dunno:



    HEY FOLKS, INSTEAD OF DONATING TO CONSISTANTLY FAILED ASPECT OF OUR SOCIETY, WHY NOT DONATE TO ASPECTS WHICH CONSISTANTLY PROVE THEMSELVES SUCCESSFUL.

    LIKE PRIVATE SCHOOL
    HOME SCHOOLERS
    Charter Schools

    there are better ways to help children, who will undoubtedly not be a burden to society.
    WHAT MAKE YOU THINK THESE SUPPLIES WOULD NEVER BE GIVEN TO THOSE IN NEED AT PRIVATE or CHARTER SCHOOLS?
    :cool:
     
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