You have been discovered

[longbow]

Say three months into SHTF event some desparate people discover you have stuff they want, and have probed a few times to try and take it. You have pushed back this small group several times and they have taken losses.

You are in a rural area, hills and trees and your house is 800 feet from the road.

Then one early morning you hear a diesel engine and see this coming down the road. It is one of these choices, how you going to stop them from getting close to your place?

• killdozer
• backhoe
• bulldozer
• bank armored truck
• men on horses

Share some preplanned and immediate response ideas.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Superior firepower including 2 .50bmgs with lots of AP and API ammo.

3 months into an event there will be mines and traps.

Any team small enough to be able for me to repel who can muster the resources named will have more trouble than me around here.

 

[Dogman]

Nighttime hunting trip, noone left to bother you.

 

[Joe Williams]

Superior firepower including 2 .50bmgs with lots of AP and API ammo.

3 months into an event there will be mines and traps.

Any team small enough to be able for me to repel who can muster the resources named will have more trouble than me around here.

This, minus the 50 because neither me nor my friends have one LOL.

 

[longbow]

AP ammo is good!

Going hunting is also good!

My call is an ambush at a place you have set up for this event. A bridge, a turn in the road, a natural choke point. Does not have to be on your property.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Superior firepower including 2 .50bmgs with lots of AP and API ammo.

3 months into an event there will be mines and traps.

Any team small enough to be able for me to repel who can muster the resources named will have more trouble than me around here.

Following up my own post, what a narcissist...

When I read "Cold Zero: Inside the FBI Hostage Rescue Team" (an excellent read for anyone who wants an insight as to how the agencies view the citizenry...) he was talking about one of the things they feared the most at the Branch Davidians compound was that they know the BDs had a Barret M82, and they really feared the .50bmg. This is a professional team with that much respect for a heavier caliber.

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

Precision .308 rounds should do the trick. Build deadfalls and watch them squirm.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Molatov cocktails and a 3 man water balloon launcher.

I'd also fell some timbers across the road to make travel more difficult, and to hem the armor into a place that I already sighted in with my molly launcher.

Maybe even an oil pit that I could light after the dozer unimog whatever rolled into it.

I suppose those are all prepared responses.

Immediate response would be to withdraw to a better vantage point and engage their flank. Maybe take a couple of pot shots at the engine/radiator.

Ideally, I'd try to find a chink in the dozer armor so I could hit the driver.

 

[eldirector]

Say three months into SHTF event some desparate people discover you have stuff they want, and have probed a few times to try and take it. You have pushed back this small group several times and they have taken losses.

You are in a rural area, hills and trees and your house is 800 feet from the road.

Then one early morning you hear a diesel engine and see this coming down the road. It is one of these choices, how you going to stop them from getting close to your place?

• killdozer
• backhoe
• bulldozer
• bank armored truck
• men on horses

Share some preplanned and immediate response ideas.

Backhoe, bulldozer, and horses would be the same as the previous attacks, I assume? Just some guys without armor or much cover. A scoped rifle should do the trick. Even a .22 would work, as you just need to hit the driver/rider. You might even get some free equipment or horses out of the deal.

An armored truck from a bank? Good luck getting up the driveway. If things had gotten this bad after SHTF, then I would likely have dropped some trees across the drive, and used an alternate entrance for myself. They can park and walk, and you get a new truck.

Killdozer? 3 months into SHTF, I doubt someone has the resources to build and then drive something like this any distance. That's a huge waste of time, energy, and fuel. Top speed is what, 15 MPH? It would take them all day to get across a county and burn way too much fuel. You could hear/see them from miles away (remember, not many other mechanical sounds after SHTF), set up a defense, or plan an offensive.

 

[woowoo2]

If this small group has attacked several times in the past, I would have gone on the offense ....

 

[longbow]

Precision .308 rounds should do the trick. Build deadfalls and watch them squirm.

Pictures for the mentally impaired.....deadfalls that is.

 

[shibumiseeker]

Pictures for the mentally impaired.....deadfalls that is.

A large tree notched with a small charge rigged (can be gunpowder charge if done properly), or propped, or held with a cable or rope. Not much can take 5 tons of tree falling on it.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I just would hear that little girls voice from resident evil saying "your all going to die down here" lol.

only it would be me saying your all going to die here.

come try and steal my suff and there will be no mercy shown to anyone. and by 3 months in, I wouls already have some sweet things in place by then, it would make the best action film director proud, lol.

"let the bodies hit the floor ... let the bodies hit the floor"

 

[eldirector]

Pictures for the mentally impaired.....deadfalls that is.

Remember the Ewoks in the Star Wars movie? Remember the "swinging logs" that took out the Imperial Walkers?

Suspend a log horizontally by 2 ropes on one side of the driveway. Put it just below chest height. Now, draw it back using a third rope, so that when released, it swings out into the drive. Put that third rope on a trigger, or cut it manually. Repeat several times up the drive.

You don't need a huge log to generate a LOT of momentum. Sharpen the end if you want to punch through something. Leave it blunt if you just want to knock it over. Time the release to wedge into the tracks on your "killdozer". You just need to disable one side to stop the advance.

Or shibumiseeker's idea. Just drop some trees on 'em.

Who's property has the drive that goes below the man-made lake? I've seen pictures on here.... Place a charge that would drain the lake on them. Kinda last resort, but you could use the newly-acquired killdozer to repair the dam!

 

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

A large tree notched with a small charge rigged (can be gunpowder charge if done properly), or propped, or held with a cable or rope. Not much can take 5 tons of tree falling on it.

Exactly or use pitfalls, a large vehicle would have a heck of a time getting out of a nicely hidden ditch.

 

[jason867]

Then one early morning you hear a diesel engine and see this coming down the road.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZh9-NQEyI"]YouTube - Destroyed in Seconds - Bulldozer Rampage[/ame]

To quote a History Channel show: "Man. Moment. Machine."

 

[shibumiseeker]

YouTube - Destroyed in Seconds - Bulldozer Rampage

To quote a History Channel show: "Man. Moment. Machine."

If I flip and decide to go out in glory, THIS is how I want to go!

He'd have been screwed though if he's fallen into the basement of any of those buildings (which is why I suspect he bashed in the fronts and didn't go through them). Also 5 gallons of gasoline remote ignited would have stopped him cold. Or a lot of teargas or a cloud of chlorine gas...

A tank is a great machine, and it's also a steel coffin. Armor is best used in concert with infantry, air support, and a lot of other armor. Any single tank by itself is essentially a rolling tomb since it will eventually stop.

 

[TiminMishawaka]

Are these individually or all at once? Individually I would think:

• killdozer

Fire the flamethrower underneath the chassis and let the heat rise up inside. No machine in the world can overcome the effects of overheating. Burst a hose and it's 10 tons of yard ornament, keep the flame on it and it will bake what's inside. Flamethrowers are legal to build/own with no licensing in Indiana.

• backhoe

Shoot the driver then maybe the hydraulic hoses.

• bulldozer

Shoot the driver then maybe the hydraulic hoses.

• bank armored truck

Well, whoever's inside has to come out but what strikes me about these is they're not much good if the driver can't see so obscure the driver's vision with smoke or whatever and lay cover fire on it and someone will have to volunteer to go out first. This is where a semi auto belt fed browning would probably be handy.... Now I have an excuse to buy one.

• men on horses

Shoot the men, keep the horses.

 

[Andre46996]

This is why I am going to the first available FEMA camp. The guberment has my best interest in mind and will protect me. Besides I don't have any guns those are for those nutty Tea Party people and Wacko Militia types.

 

[eldirector]

This is why I am going to the first available FEMA camp. The guberment has my best interest in mind and will protect me. Besides I don't have any guns those are for those nutty Tea Party people and Wacko Militia types.

Cool! We'll [strike]loot[/strike], er, salvage your place first!

I wonder if my wife would notice if I started on my "killdozer fortifications" this weekend? A 12' wide by 10' deep moat should do it. Maybe if I landscape it nicely, she won't notice.....