New footage proves WTC building 7 was a controlled demoliton

[.40caltrucker]

If you were to go off simple physics, the buildings should have fallen over, not straight down. The collapses were way to perfect. These are arguments that can go on for eternity. Thing is, YOU only know what THEY want you too.

I'm curious why you think the buildings should have fallen over?

Their design included a core up the middle of each building. When they collapsed the top did "fall over" above the impact, but the lower floors pancaked straight down like the building was designed to do.

 

[Hornett]

QFT.

Not to mention that everything our government does they manage to screw up. Anyone who believes that out government DID all of this gives the government far too much credit, as far as I'm concerned.

Well, it did take two tries.

 

[Hkindiana]

Remember, the government was behind global cooling, now global warming, and pearl harbor too!

 

[Bigum1969]

 

[teknickle]

I'm curious why you think the buildings should have fallen over?

Their design included a core up the middle of each building. When they collapsed the top did "fall over" above the impact, but the lower floors pancaked straight down like the building was designed to do.

The buildings were not designed to fail.
I remember watching a documentary (before 9/11) about the buildings and the fact that they were designed to intentionally withstand the impact of a jetliner.

They were designed to stand.

Not weighing in on whether or not "it was planned", just want to make sure to clear some of the info up a little.

Could it be that most people (on whatever side of the argument) already made up their minds about what happened, and are now trying to explain events just to justify that predisposition?

 

[teknickle]

Remember, the government was behind global cooling, now global warming, and pearl harbor too!

Is that supposed to be a joke?

The 'gubment' isn't behind "Global Warming".
Global Warming is indeed a hoax (as partially explained by the divulging of the Climate Gate forged results).
Funny that some european countries banned that piece-of-trash 'documentary' by Al Gore.

Anyone that believes that carbon emissions somehow have been "raising the world temperature and armageddon will ensue" is clearly uneducated and drinks whatever koolaid mainstream media pours out.
Agenda 21 is well publicized by the UN.

Sheep to the slaughter, all the while fighting each other for being first in line to load into the truck.

Good luck.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Funny, none of the (credible) theories I have read that implied explosives implied that it was engineered and staged the same day.

Part of having a 'real' debate is to listen to what the other side is actually stating. (or if you are interested in just 'winning' a debate--you setup a strawman argument and then debunk the weakest argument against your case).

I have read a number of the reports regarding 9/11. I was in NYC after it happened and visited ground zero. Even getting into end of November, there was a stink in the air like someone was welding and it was just plain eerie. Also I watched the barges (first hand) being loaded with debris and being sent to China for recycling.

If you want to debunk the 'conspiracies', then do not follow the report by Popular Science. It was garbage. Why? Because they were taking bits and pieces of wild conspiracies and pretending to debunk the thing.

If you watch the _original_ Loose Change documentary, or read some of the contractor lab reports...there is no "smoking gun", but alot of evidence that just doesn't make any sense.

Things that do not fit the official story (all rumor at this point):
-passport of suspected hijacker found on the sidewalk debris.
-phone calls made from Flight 93 to family members -- conversations didn't jive (look this one up --kind of wierd)
-the manner in which flight 77 had to maneuver to hit the Pentagon, is beyond the mechanical limits of that AA jetliner (what do I know, I haven't piloted anything larger than a Cessna 172)
-rumor that Marvin Bush owns the security firm that took over the contract to those buildings months before the incidents
-computer system administrators reporting power being cut (including to surveillance) for maintenance operations (I remember reading a post supposedly by one of the sysadmins and referencing relying on the UPS's and powering down other systems weeks ahead of September).
-couple of eye witnesses (including a janitor) disappeared after telling stories of other activities that were going on in the buildings.

What's the deal?
Is any of this true? Probably no more than any of the 'official' story.

Even the official 9/11 commission report stated the we were not attacked for our culture, or because we are free.
(attributed to blowback to the US presence in Iran, Afghanistan, etc)

All I really know is that the incident was used as an excuse to ramp up the Patriot Act, treat citizens as terrorists, pretend the TSA can prevent _anything_ other than rights violations (and pretending to be real cops), we ramrodded our way into Iraq--with NO PLAN OF EVER pulling out.
If you stand back far enough, you get the bigger picture.

Iraq was NEVER about WMDs. Obama might have tricked some ignorant masses that "he will pull out", but that was NEVER the plan.
It was not about oil, either. It was about having a seat for the IMF in the Middle East and planting the Iraqi seats at OPEC with those shills.
It was/is/always will be about big money.

I hear what the other side is saying. I didn't get my question from Popular Science, I got it from one of the "truther" documentaries on TV. It was one of the truther conspiracies that was put out there, so I was inquiring as to whether Duncan believed in that particular one.

As far as the passport of a hijacker being found in the sidewalk debris, you would be surprised at what you find. I have gone to post-blast training during which cars, minivans, and airport shuttle buses were blown up with different amounts of explosives including black powder filled pipe bombs, C4, and ANFO. With the larger amounts of explosive being used, you would think that everything would be destroyed, but it isn't.

 

[rambone]

Were the contents of any other passenger's wallets found?

 

[dross]

I've often wondered what caused those buildings to crash. Then I remembered that large airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel crashed in to them at high speed.

Then I thought, "What if the government, or someone, set up a bunch of explosive charges, timed to go off within a short time of two airplanes filled with tons of explosive fuel crashing in to them at high speed?"

I decided not.

My premeses and conclusion:

1. I don't trust the government.
2. I have seen no evidence that the government is capable of doing anything in secret except very small operations known only to a few people.
3. Airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel flew into the buildings at high speed, then they fell down.
4. In any event so large, there will be many pieces of evidence that can be interpreted in any number of ways.

From this, I concluded that the buildings fell down because of the airplanes.

Call me a sheeple.

 

[Bigum1969]

I've often wondered what caused those buildings to crash. Then I remembered that large airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel crashed in to them at high speed.

Then I thought, "What if the government, or someone, set up a bunch of explosive charges, timed to go off within a short time of two airplanes filled with tons of explosive fuel crashing in to them at high speed?"

I decided not.

My premeses and conclusion:

1. I don't trust the government.
2. I have seen no evidence that the government is capable of doing anything in secret except very small operations known only to a few people.
3. Airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel flew into the buildings at high speed, then they fell down.
4. In any event so large, there will be many pieces of evidence that can be interpreted in any number of ways.

From this, I concluded that the buildings fell down because of the airplanes.

Call me a sheeple.

I guess you could call me a sheeple as well.

Crazy stuff like this conspiracy theory makes the legitimate questioning of government harder.

 

[printcraft]

Yep, it's a Monday.

I was very busy this weekend for some very suck reasons,
and did not have opportunity to log onto my favorite site.



I might go into it later (tease)..... Glad some things never change.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

I've often wondered what caused those buildings to crash. Then I remembered that large airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel crashed in to them at high speed.

Then I thought, "What if the government, or someone, set up a bunch of explosive charges, timed to go off within a short time of two airplanes filled with tons of explosive fuel crashing in to them at high speed?"

I decided not.

My premeses and conclusion:

1. I don't trust the government.
2. I have seen no evidence that the government is capable of doing anything in secret except very small operations known only to a few people.
3. Airplanes, filled with tons of explosive fuel flew into the buildings at high speed, then they fell down.
4. In any event so large, there will be many pieces of evidence that can be interpreted in any number of ways.

From this, I concluded that the buildings fell down because of the airplanes.

Call me a sheeple.

There you are with that pesky airplane theory again.

Here's a video of planes hitting a building and the moron narrating still claims it was space aliens or the Russian Mafia or barking moonbats and that the planes were incidental to the destruction.

Some people just don't understand that airplanes are really big and make an even bigger mess if they land other than intended.

YouTube - Here's a good 3 min 9-11 Clip worth seeing!

 

[dross]

I guess you could call me a sheeple as well.

Crazy stuff like this conspiracy theory makes the legitimate questioning of government harder.

Giving me a little icon +1 without wielding those five big gold stars where they count is like kissing my cousin. Not the hot one, either, but the fat one with hair growing from her ears.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Giving me a little icon +1 without wielding those five big gold stars where they count is like kissing my cousin. Not the hot one, either, but the fat one with hair growing from her ears.

Ahh... them five gold stars swing both ways man. Just sayin.

 

[UncleMike]

ALBATROSS!!
Get your Albatross here!!
(Oops! Sorry!! Wrong Monty Python skit)


TIN FOIL!!

Get yer TIN FOIL HERE!!!!

TIN FOIL!!

Get your's before the loonies get it all!!!

 

[Brandon]

the glass breaking could be due to the way the building was built, part of the building twisting right before/as it is started(ing) to collapse thus causing the windows to break.

 

[ocsdor]

Haven't we covered this 9/11 thing before?

INGunOwners - Threads Tagged with 9/11

The gov't is too incompetent to stop the attack, plan an inside job, or even deliver the mail (as many have argued); yet we believe that they know within hours of the 9/11 attacks who committed the attack, and give them 30% (or more) of our paychecks to "do the right thing" and kill the "terrorist"?

 

[Armed Citizen]

All I have to say is this, The Pentagon is the most secure building on this planet and the only footage of what is belived to be an airline crashing into the side of it was taken by some POS camera at 1 frame per second? Believe and post what you want, but IMO if you think for one second that the feds aren't capable of such planning and executing you are so sadly mistaken. If you look closely at the Pentagon crash footage why is there not any damages to the building where the GIANT motors would be on the wings that impacted the building? Also, as reported the CIA and FBI conviscated security footage from two near by business within minutes of the impact. This footage was NEVER released to the public. There is also reported statements, that the fed recovered the 3 out of the 4 flight records, the feds claim they were never recoved.

 

[machete]

i think its funny how the same people say that the gov cant keep a secret are the ones crying about wikileaks dumping a bunch of them on the internet...telling us that assange is going to blow cover and get people killed...

their going both ways on that one

 

[rhino]

I'm actually an anorexic, 19-year-old Norwegian girl named Bianca. This whole rhino thing was the result of a controlled demolition conducted under the auspices of a sooper seekrit government conspiracy.