Have Glock falling out of popularity?

[Fordtough25]

Rock out with your Glock out.

I do when I carry the G21.

 

[mjblazor]

I really like the no frill intent of the Glock. For what it was intended it is still better than most and as good as any for a combat / civilian pistol. However, i agree there are others that are probably going to cut into the sale of glocks. I really like the way the Ruger SR's feel and point but don't hear much about them. They are very affordable. Somewhat heavier for a polymer but a very good feeling gun.

 

[hosborn]

Since they seem to have a stable new and used price to them I can't see why someone would do an FFL for one.
The exception of course seems to be the people that want new/more than new prices for a used one on this forum...

 

[other guy]

I know I am going to get hammered for this post, but here it goes. Was told this story by a local LEO who retired and now runs a gun shop. The Sherrif's Dept here have been using Glocks for about 20 years. They had one with a cracked frame so they sent it in for repairs. They were told by Glock that it was about time to trade them in and get new ones because they could expect to se more of the same from the rest of them . The plastic ( i mean polymer) seems to get brittle after 20 years or so. Now Glocks are great guns, but there is aprice you pay fr that lite weight. All the plastic Guns are considered throw aways. After 20-25 years. As long as you understand that when you buy them. The metal guns cost more for a reason. Look at the Smith's. New plastic gun, around $300, The only all metal semi-auto they make is the 1911, around 900. Metal revolvers 6-800. Ruger plastic's are around $325. Their all metal 1911, around $700. I don't know if its true or not, its just what I've been told. If it is true, then the resale value of used plastic guns is going to be low when people figure out whats going on. People selling them are not going to tell you this as it would kill the deal. For me, I know an all metal gun will last 75 years if properly cared for. Only time will tell for the plastic guns. I am not trying to start an argument here, I am responding to an earlier post where i read where a Glock will last forever. I chuckle whenever I see someone use that term. Once you reach a certain age you realize, Nothing last forever, including a GLOCK. HICKOK45 swears by them, so they can't be bad, they just don't last forever, Oh yea, and plastic don't rust

 

[BE Mike]

All de home boys poppin' caps wit da Glock 9! Seriously though, Glock has gotten a ton of free publicity in the press, tv and movies, since it was described when it first came out as the gun that could get by x-ray machines at the airports. I've owned a glock. My next plastic gun, if I get one, will probably be an M&P. I shot one a few weeks ago and think it is superior to the Glock. S&W is also a company very responsive to consumers...Glock, not so much.

 

[HICKMAN]

S&W is also a company very responsive to consumers...Glock, not so much.

Do you like that Glock copy called the Sigma?

or the Sigma "SD" or Bodyguard line?


Yeah... that's responsive to WHAT consumers again?

 

[TopDog]

I know I am going to get hammered for this post, but here it goes. Was told this story by a local LEO who retired and now runs a gun shop. The Sherrif's Dept here have been using Glocks for about 20 years. They had one with a cracked frame so they sent it in for repairs. They were told by Glock that it was about time to trade them in and get new ones because they could expect to se more of the same from the rest of them . The plastic ( i mean polymer) seems to get brittle after 20 years or so. Now Glocks are great guns, but there is aprice you pay fr that lite weight. All the plastic Guns are considered throw aways. After 20-25 years. As long as you understand that when you buy them. The metal guns cost more for a reason. Look at the Smith's. New plastic gun, around $300, The only all metal semi-auto they make is the 1911, around 900. Metal revolvers 6-800. Ruger plastic's are around $325. Their all metal 1911, around $700. I don't know if its true or not, its just what I've been told. If it is true, then the resale value of used plastic guns is going to be low when people figure out whats going on. People selling them are not going to tell you this as it would kill the deal. For me, I know an all metal gun will last 75 years if properly cared for. Only time will tell for the plastic guns. I am not trying to start an argument here, I am responding to an earlier post where i read where a Glock will last forever. I chuckle whenever I see someone use that term. Once you reach a certain age you realize, Nothing last forever, including a GLOCK. HICKOK45 swears by them, so they can't be bad, they just don't last forever, Oh yea, and plastic don't rust

No hammering here.

Since reading the above post I got curious, I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. I went to the Glock site and could not find warranty information on the site. Since I own two Glock's I went to the paperwork that came with the guns. To my surprise they only have a one year limited warranty and that is to the original purchaser only. I found this to be somewhat disconcerting as I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. It appears that Glock does not have much confidence in their own product. Now I love Glock and think they will last more than 20 years but it says a lot about a company when they have such a skimpy warranty.

I'm not going to give up my Glocks but this shows what happens when you assume.

 

[iChokePeople]

No hammering here.

Since reading the above post I got curious, I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. I went to the Glock site and could not find warranty information on the site. Since I own two Glock's I went to the paperwork that came with the guns. To my surprise they only have a one year limited warranty and that is to the original purchaser only. I found this to be somewhat disconcerting as I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. It appears that Glock does not have much confidence in their own product. Now I love Glock and think they will last more than 20 years but it says a lot about a company when they have such a skimpy warranty.

I'm not going to give up my Glocks but this shows what happens when you assume.

Even Tupperware has a lifetime warranty: Buy Tupperware Online - Full Lifetime Warranty on Tupperware Products. You'd think Glock could just accept the returns and forward them back to the parent company.

 

[Zoub]

I rather an XD or M&P over a glock, but I've seen a few key members on INGO move away from glock to XD or M&P

My Mom does not own nor shoot Glocks, she is also not a member of INGO and Shooter521 is not Gay.

It is important to consider all the facts.

 

[printcraft]

Fads come and fads go....

Then they come back too Glock....

Yeah, and I hear bell bottom pants are making a comeback too.....





Now for something completely different......

I have been considering getting a G23.

 

[rugertoter]

I'm not into GLOCKS, but since the price of a glock has gone up, their demand has fallen

Isn't that the truth! I can see some modest uptick in prices to keep up with inflation, but damn. Once in a while the local GM here will have a big Glock sale, about 100$ off normal price, and then they will fly out the door. It seems to me, and maybe I'm all wet on this here, but a lot of handgun prices seem to be going up into the Stratoshere. JMHO.

 

[HICKMAN]

It appears that Glock does not have much confidence in their own product. Now I love Glock and think they will last more than 20 years but it says a lot about a company when they have such a skimpy warranty.

I'm not going to give up my Glocks but this shows what happens when you assume.

Call them, see how much confidence they have in their product?

or just go visit a GSSF match... where they always have a Glock armorer who will check over your gun, replace any springs and do any work for nothing... with a smile and a cool story or 3.

You might even meet Scotty Banks... who's one cool cat.

 

[HICKMAN]

the GSSF discount is pretty sweet too

wonder when/if S&W will do something like that for their loyal followers.

 

[24Carat]

I don't know why you're not doing more transfers OP.

Maybe it because everyone has a glock already?

They should be as common as any other household item. Like blenders or George Forman grills.

Priceless ^^^^

 

[jsnowy]

For any product, the market only holds so many customers for that product. (Look at HUMMER, they foolishly believed they could expand market share forever) The laws of supply and demand are even more pronounced when the product has a long service life. Smith and Wesson is a good example of that. The model 10 revolver was a top seller for many years. How many do they sell now? Glocks entered an essentially empty market and filled it for years. Now that most of the market has one, the market share has to shrink. Some previous customers may upgrade to a newer version or some different features. None of these principles say the glock is better or worse, it is just a fact or the market.

Well said sir.

 

[24Carat]

I know I am going to get hammered for this post, but here it goes. Was told this story by a local LEO who retired and now runs a gun shop. The Sherrif's Dept here have been using Glocks for about 20 years. They had one with a cracked frame so they sent it in for repairs. They were told by Glock that it was about time to trade them in and get new ones because they could expect to se more of the same from the rest of them . The plastic ( i mean polymer) seems to get brittle after 20 years or so. Now Glocks are great guns, but there is aprice you pay fr that lite weight. All the plastic Guns are considered throw aways. After 20-25 years. As long as you understand that when you buy them. The metal guns cost more for a reason. Look at the Smith's. New plastic gun, around $300, The only all metal semi-auto they make is the 1911, around 900. Metal revolvers 6-800. Ruger plastic's are around $325. Their all metal 1911, around $700. I don't know if its true or not, its just what I've been told. If it is true, then the resale value of used plastic guns is going to be low when people figure out whats going on. People selling them are not going to tell you this as it would kill the deal. For me, I know an all metal gun will last 75 years if properly cared for. Only time will tell for the plastic guns. I am not trying to start an argument here, I am responding to an earlier post where i read where a Glock will last forever. I chuckle whenever I see someone use that term. Once you reach a certain age you realize, Nothing last forever, including a GLOCK. HICKOK45 swears by them, so they can't be bad, they just don't last forever, Oh yea, and plastic don't rust

Uh . . . . OK, first "testimonial" of this environmental weakness I have read anywhere. First off the gun is "plastic" is a very rudimentary and inaccurate term. A "cross linked polymer" is as comparable to plastic as raw iron is to stainless steel.

Accelerated environmental lab testing is everything it's cracked up to be. Today's cross linked polymers will be the last vestiges of our existence that will be found eons from now and still be basically intact.

 

[gunman41mag]

The thing I like about GLOCKS, is I could scratch them, holster wear, & abuse them & it won't bother me, cause they aren't collectors item, just a plain jane tool, I have no love for them

 

[esrice]

Man I had forgotten how hot-under-the-collar some folks get when pistol brand names get tossed around.

We could certainly compare companies in terms of innovation, or customer service, or market strategy. But blanket statements like "Glocks are better than XDs" or "M&Ps are better than Glocks" are just silly. How do I know if a Glock is a better gun for YOU?

We all have different reasons for choosing the guns we do. We all have different perspectives and priorities when it comes to things like reliability, ruggedness, simplicity, accuracy, value, materials, or caliber.

Both me and another INGOer recently gave up our Glocks. I picked up an M&P9 and him a Taurus 709. I wouldn't personally trust a Taurus (been there, done that, yuck), but his gun selection wasn't my choice-- it was his. His priorities and perspectives were different than mine, and that's just fine.

My decision to move away from Glock had to do with grip size and natural point-of-aim. Financial considerations weren't as great because I only had to replace 1 gun, 2 holsters and a few magazines. Even if someone like shooter521 found a slight gain in shooting an M&P, he has to balance that gain with the considerable financial cost of replacing SEVERAL guns, MANY holsters, LOTS of magazines, and a metric ton of spare parts. Also consider that, as a lesser experienced shooter, my gain might be immediately greater than his. Therefore I have every reason to jump to M&P and he has every reason to stick with Glock. Can I shoot a Glock? Yep. Can he shoot an M&P? Yep.

All guns have their Pros and Cons. And all shooters have their preferences and priorities. The sooner we all realize this the sooner we'll stop arguing about which brand is (generally) "better".

 

[24Carat]

All de home boys poppin' caps wit da Glock 9! Seriously though, Glock has gotten a ton of free publicity in the press, tv and movies, since it was described when it first came out as the gun that could get by x-ray machines at the airports. I've owned a glock. My next plastic gun, if I get one, will probably be an M&P. I shot one a few weeks ago and think it is superior to the Glock. S&W is also a company very responsive to consumers...Glock, not so much.

Another "testimonial" I've not heard before. I would imagine if the original design and manufacturing of a product has little to no customer product issues you wouldn't be real experienced in the customer service arena. As an extreme example, (just throwing numbers out) if you receive 125 calls a day about your product verses 3 a month, I don't think you would need a call center to address issues.

 

[24Carat]

No hammering here.

Since reading the above post I got curious, I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. I went to the Glock site and could not find warranty information on the site. Since I own two Glock's I went to the paperwork that came with the guns. To my surprise they only have a one year limited warranty and that is to the original purchaser only. I found this to be somewhat disconcerting as I always thought they had a lifetime warranty. It appears that Glock does not have much confidence in their own product. Now I love Glock and think they will last more than 20 years but it says a lot about a company when they have such a skimpy warranty.

I'm not going to give up my Glocks but this shows what happens when you assume.

As compared to the warranty of what other gun or consumer product? Fiberglass handled post hole diggers that do break, but the manufacturer has this golden lifetime warranty to enhance sales and grab market share? An extended or long term warranty means squat. Ever shop at Best Buy?