Here's a scenario...

[Car Ramrod]

You are outside, in your yard. You are carrying your pistol in an OWB holster. A passerby sees it, and calls the police for "a man with a gun". Police officer shows up and asks for your ID and LTCH.

Normally, you are not obligated to show a picture ID, but you must show your LTCH if asked for it. However, a LTCH is not required to carry in/on your property.

Given the circumstances and situation, are you legally obligated to provide the officer with either piece of information he/she asked for?

 

[.40caltrucker]

Nope, officer you are trespassing on private property, please leave if you don't have probable cause to arrest me.

 

[jbombelli]

If I'm working in the yard, I most likely don't have ID on me. But I don't need to. This is my own private property. I don't need a license to carry here, and I don't need to have ID on me. If he wants ID, I'll politely inform him of that and ask him if there's anything else I can help him with today.

And we'll go from there.

 

[Hemingway]

I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

 

[rw496]

I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

That seems like a good response. I guess the appropriate response would depend on how he came at you first.

 

[Kaiser]

I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

It has happened to me not a pistol but an AR. We were out shooting and one of the neighbors on top of the hill called. I sat the rifle down as he exited the car he asked if the signs in the woods were mine. I said yes ha asked where we were shooting I polietly pointed the range out. We talked a few minutes he left his card and told us to have a good time. I am glad to say I have never had a bad experience with a LEO. I have always found a little respect goes a long way. Most of these guys are doing a job and are there to help.

 

[Hoosierdood]

Number 1 concern... be polite. If the officer comes at you like a JBT with a chip on his shoulder, politely inform him that you are on your own property and are within your rights. If he has further concerns, he should come back with a warrant. If he pushes the issue, ask for a supervisor come to the scene.

If he comes with a friendly attitude, be polite and friendly back to him. I would speculate that if he was polite and friendly, he may not even ask for ID or LTCH. Even if he does, the decision is yours. I would not fault you if you showed it, but I suppose that you could have a friendly conversation about the legalities of carrying on your own property and you rights, and he would be satisfied with that.

 

[Sylvain]

That seems like a good response. I guess the appropriate response would depend on how he came at you first.

This.

If the LEO is a jerk and clearly doesn't support armed citizens I would not show any ID or LTCH, and probably take his/her name to call his/her superior.
If it's a friendly LEO I would have no problem showing my ID or/and LTCH (if I have them on me) even though I know I dont have to show those and even though a LTCH is not even required to carry in your own yard.

 

[obijohn]

I like this response. Anything other than polite and professional will eventually bite you in the ass. IMO, to immediately take the offensive and inform the officer of trespass etc, is a mistake. But what do I know, I'm just and old country boy.

That being said, I will also defend your right to respond as you please as long as it is legal. Ethics and decorum be damned.

I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

 

[BroadbandBrat]

Originally Posted by Hemingway
I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

I wasn't sure about this either since there was no purple text. But the winky eye does the same...lol

 

[canav844]

He won't ask for my LTCH, I always wear my CCW sash when I OC

On my own property, I'd probably be a little more stern as far as what I am not obligated to do to make other people feel comfortable; but in general I'd be looking to get back on with my day and as soon as he sees it staying in the holster, he'll probably rather be elsewhere too.

 

[TR1032]

I thought for sure that was going to happen to me once. I was on my back porch spraying rust preventer on a shotgun before I stored it, and at that exact moment a teenager decided to take a shortcut through my yard on the way home. The look on her face when she came around the corner of the house was priceless. I just acted like nothing was out of the ordinary (to me it wasn't) and told her she could go on through.

I went back inside and told my wife "If there is a knock at the door, it's for me".

At that point I don't think there would have been any need to show ID, but I might have if asked. Hard to say until it happens.

 

[farmerdan]

I've been asked to show ID in my driveway, I had just got home from deer hunting and was open carrying a redhawk while unloading the truck. The Officer was very respectful and I had no problem showing my ID. I agree it has a lot to do with how the first few minutes go. Dan

 

[LoneWolf2554]

If I had my info on me I would show it to the LEO. Don't see the harm in doing that. Odds are I would probably talk to this person for a little while afterwards, its always a good thing to be friends with someone who is wearing a badge. My issue would be with the person who called the cops in the first place. If I'm working in my yard, who cares what I'm carrying or wearing?! Guns. Beer. Bacon. My land, my choice.

 

[JetGirl]

I'd probably make some sort of "Did you smell the box of donuts on my kitchen counter?" wisecrack followed by something similar to what Hemingway posted.
Seriously, I can't help myself.
I will be the imminent downfall of me.

 

[jeremy]

I'd call the Sheriff and ask him to send out a Deputy to collect the randomly roaming Police Officer...

 

[Car Ramrod]

Given the circumstances and situation, are you legally obligated to provide the officer with either piece of information he/she asked for?

Nice cop/dick cop aside; I am still curious as to whether you are legally obligated to provide the information asked of you. Does your LTCH trump the fact that you are standing on your own property, requiring you to provide it when asked?

 

[kingpin75]

You are not obligated to show LTCH on your own property.

 

[jefalatho]

I'd show it, make friends with the cop, let him know he's always welcome and to keep an eye out if he ever sees anything going on with my house.

I'd also let him know I'm normal, on his side, and he can disregard calls like this in the future.

(But that'll probably make me the weird one on this board from what I've read here )

Smart approach.

 

[trapperDave]

you are not obligated to SHOW a ltch anywhere.