Man wearing gun around neck arrested

[wizard_of_ahs]

Just more

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yea? The BUS fits this description:

(4) the person carries the handgun while lawfully present in a vehicle that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by another person, if the handgun is:

"Tuesday afternoon after a riding on a Gary bus, then walking on the street with a gun hanging around his neck like a pendant on a necklace, police said."

If the fish cannot see the water, does the water exist?

They drive around in cars and thus cannot imagine anyone walking anywhere. It's just like the General Assembly. INGO, and the General Assembly, cannot imagine anyone walking therefore no one does.

It's right there in the article, he was walking on the street, NOT RIDING IN A BUS.

 

[Armed Citizen]

I'm kinda curious of how exactly it was hanging from his neck? If it was a rifle with a sling it would be legal. Never seen a sling on a pistol before.

I have a Draco AK-47 pistol and it has a sling. I actually wore it into a Marathon gas station, you should he seen the looks. But I have a LTCH.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Looks like the IC was not thought out very well...

I believe the IC used to have an exemption under "Excepted Persons" that would permit someone to transport a firearm from the place of purchase to their residence or fixed business - but only if unloaded and in a "secured wrapper". It would appear that this was removed - possibly when they made the recent changes to the IC?

It would appear that without an LTCH you not only have to ensure that any handgun you buy comes in a "secured wrapper", but you also have to transport it in a vehicle. So, without an LTCH you can buy a used firearm without a "secured wrapper" - but the act of taking it home would be a crime. You could also buy a handgun with a secured wrapper, but unless you transport it in a vehicle - you are committing a crime.

I doubt he would be able to successfully argue that it was in a "secured wrapper" - and since he was not in a vehicle, he is out of luck anyway.

Odd how a change aimed at decreasing restrictions can end up creating more...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I believe the IC used to have an exemption under "Excepted Persons" that would permit someone to transport a firearm from the place of purchase to their residence or fixed business - but only if unloaded and in a "secured wrapper". It would appear that this was removed - possibly when they made the recent changes to the IC?

I told them.

I whined and cried and yet they ignored me as water is invisible to fish.

Not everyone has a motor vehicle in Indiana but everyone in the Indiana General Assembly has a motor vehicle.

The thought of anyone walking any where shocked them.

As a LEO, I walked to work everyday. They laughed at me.

"Can't afford a car? Hardy har har, yuck, yuck, yuck."

No, I just liked the exercise and it kept overhead down.

The General Assembly cannot see beyond their own windshields and we all pay the price.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

I told them.

I whined and cried and yet they ignored me as water is invisible to fish.

Not everyone has a motor vehicle in Indiana but everyone in the Indiana General Assembly has a motor vehicle.

The thought of anyone walking any where shocked them.

As a LEO, I walked to work everyday. They laughed at me.

"Can't afford a car? Hardy har har, yuck, yuck, yuck."

No, I just liked the exercise and it kept overhead down.

The General Assembly cannot see beyond their own windshields and we all pay the price.

The fact that you took the time to point that out to them, and it was not just an overlooked unintentional change, makes it so much more ridiculous.

 

[netsecurity]

"Tuesday afternoon after a riding on a Gary bus, then walking on the street with a gun hanging around his neck like a pendant on a necklace, police said."

If the fish cannot see the water, does the water exist?

They drive around in cars and thus cannot imagine anyone walking anywhere. It's just like the General Assembly. INGO, and the General Assembly, cannot imagine anyone walking therefore no one does.

It's right there in the article, he was walking on the street, NOT RIDING IN A BUS.

Of course he was walking! He didn't have a working car apparenly, so he took the bus, and some walking is inherently required, just as you are required to walk from your car if you must park on the street in front of your house, and this is reasonable, unless he was meandering about town, instead of on his way home. Are you saying that people without cars cannot legally buy a gun, unless their friend drives them to the gun store?


Laws restricting rights must be taken liberally, only laws that protect rights must be followed to the letter IMO (Liberals do the opposite, they are strange people).

 

[Kirk Freeman]

They were all obsessed over cars.

I raised the issue of public transport, bicycles, or horses (like my dad) and even walking (told them about walking to Schuzi's in downtown Lafayette to buy guns). Fish eyes and silence. All I got in return was fish eyes.

The fish cannot see the water, it does not exist.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Are you saying that people without cars cannot legally buy a gun, unless their friend drives them to the gun store?

Read the new statute and answer your own question.

I told them; I was ignored.

 

[LegatoRedrivers]

It's right there in the article, he was walking on the street, NOT RIDING IN A BUS.

So here's a question -

Say I purchased my first handgun, and did not yet have my ltch. I transport it home in my vehicle, but I live in an apartment that only has street parking.

I step out of my vehicle and take the handgun out of the trunk (let's say it was used and didn't come with a case. Maybe they gave me a non-descript paper bag to carry it in.)

So I'm walking the 10 feet from the street to an apartment complex, and I stumble over the curb. An LEO spots me, spots the non-descript paper bag, thinks I'm drunk, and asks me what's in the bag.

At this point, I'm on public property with an unloaded gun that isn't in a secured case. Am I breaking the law?

 

[netsecurity]

Read the new statute and answer your own question.

I told them; I was ignored.

I hear ya!

 

[netsecurity]

So here's a question -

Say I purchased my first handgun, and did not yet have my ltch. I transport it home in my vehicle, but I live in an apartment that only has street parking.

I step out of my vehicle and take the handgun out of the trunk (let's say it was used and didn't come with a case. Maybe they gave me a non-descript paper bag to carry it in.)

So I'm walking the 10 feet from the street to an apartment complex, and I stumble over the curb. An LEO spots me, spots the non-descript paper bag, thinks I'm drunk, and asks me what's in the bag.

At this point, I'm on public property with an unloaded gun that isn't in a secured case. Am I breaking the law?

Everything comes down to officer discretion I'm sure. The wording in the law makes it unduly difficult for poor people who cannot afford a car especially, IMO. It sounds like this guy was showing off a bit ala Kid 'n Play based on the reporting, but maybe that isn't the case, and he deserves to be let off with a smack on the wrist, assuming it was not loaded, unless he was causing problems or something. The receipt is strong evidence in his favor. It would be cool if a lawyer took his case pro bono and got the judge to rule against the law's wording. I doubt he can afford a good attorney. People in that area probably need guns for self defense worse than most areas.

 

[HICKMAN]

 

[inlineman]

I make it a habit not to go to court without representation period.

 

[bnatc]

Yeah, booooyyyeeee! Tell 'em what time it is--time to get a LTCH, you know what I'm sayin'.

Now that brings back memories.

 

[StrongSide]

....Awesome...

 

[EAGLE115]

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That s pretty cool! Can U draw w/ one hand or do U gotta grab the holster w/ur freehand?

 

[ATM]

This is why I rarely cheer for the rewrite of laws - they often create as many new crimes as they seek to except with their ridiculous assumptions and lack of insight.

What ever happened to repealing crap laws?

We don't need endless lines of vague, narrowly crafted and often nonsensical exceptions that still manage to classify otherwise decent citizens as unwitting criminals.

Get rid of the Indiana licensing requirement.

 

[Hookeye]

I remember this necklace designer............

 

[96firephoenix]

uhh... don't see anything illegal...I see some dumb, but not some illegal.

I also see a news agency with a need for a copy editor...