Marine demonstrating in Beech Grove

[Dead Duck]

Displaying the American flag upside down is very serious and offensive to most who have served and have seen that flag charging into battle against the many enemies this nation has had through its history. For some that sacred flag was the last thing they saw before they paid the ultimate sacrifice to preserve this republic against evil forces that have tried to destroy it symbolically and physically. Not just nameless faces but friends and brothers in arms who's sacrifice is still plain as day infront of our faces. Just like Any veteran would never allow that flag to touch the ground and be disrespected so to would we never allow it to be flown upside down.
he has earned the right to wear that uniform as long as he is doing so with honor and respect for the organization it represents and the millions who went before him. But he does not have the right to use that uniform representing sacrifice and honor for political expression. At that point he has shamed himself. His past service and sacrifice is still much appreciated and sacred, but it does not allow him to speak for ever member past and present in the Marine Corps or any Military branch.

OMG - Really?
You were humming "Glory Hallelujah" while typing this - weren't you.
I know you were.



Flying the American flag upside down is an officially recognized signal of distress.
Being as today the U.S. Government has officially "Shut Down", it's warranted.
I think you need to prove that this Marine was not in any form of distress before dissing him.
I'll bet he's there tomorrow if you want to tell him exactly what you think of him. Let me know how that works out.

I will just leave his story here.

RTV6 - Disabled veteran flies U.S. flag upside down along street after government shutdown - Local Story

 

[mdmayo]

Who cares if it's Article 15,or he's breaking a code of Military conduct! I commend this troop,we need more standing up against our illegal Muslim president.

Please... "illegal Muslim president"... You don't have to like him, but at least respect the office.

How is he illegal again?​

Fact check: Legal.
Fact check: Christian. Also before you blather this point...
Fact check: Born in USA.
Capitalization check: President.​

Like it or not, your statement is false.

We all need to unite to take this Republic back & that's including Troops & the police!

Are you inciting insurrection? Really bad idea, even more so from a "Patriot." I say good day to you... NOT quality posting.

 

[badwolf.usmc]

As an American, I support his right.

As a Marine, I think he is an attention seeking asshat.

 

[indydrew1]

Please... "illegal Muslim president"... You don't have to like him, but at least respect the office.

How is he illegal again?​

Fact check: Legal.
Fact check: Christian. Also before you blather this point...
Fact check: Born in USA.
Capitalization check: President.​

Like it or not, your statement is false.



Are you inciting insurrection? Really bad idea, even more so from a "Patriot." I say good day to you...

Forgot to add democratically elected my a majority not once but twice.

 

[mdmayo]

Indeed, whether one likes the man, his politics, or not. He is our President.

 

[88GT]

Please... "illegal Muslim president"... You don't have to like him, but at least respect the office.

How is he illegal again?​

Fact check: Legal.
Fact check: Christian. Also before you blather this point...
Fact check: Born in USA.
Capitalization check: President.​

Like it or not, your statement is false.

Well, I've not seen any proof for your facts yet. His birth place aside, his election(s) were fraught with fraud, and I've seen no evidence that he is a follower of Jesus. On the other hand, I see a lot of evidence that he sympathizes with the Muslim efforts. "Fraudulent Muslim-sympathizing POTUS" is probably more accurate, but illegal Muslim president really isn't that far off.

Are you inciting insurrection? Really bad idea, even more so from a "Patriot." I say good day to you... NOT quality posting.

You're not even allowed to comment on quality posts until you have 500 of them. Just 498 more to go though. Keep at it.


(Yes, read it in purple.)

 

[Booya]

Disgrace to the Corp. Our flag should never be at ground level and his actions are a disgrace to the uniform and his family. This explains why he is not in the corp. No bacck bone. In contrast to my nephew who graciously gave of him self and now rests in Arlington, Indy and Iraq unselfish and our hero.

Two points I want to make and please read the entire post before you assume my tone.

I don't think you can call a flag in someone hands ground level. If so you'd best confront a whole lot of patriot guard riders. I do agree however, that those colors had best not touch the ground. You don't know this Marine nor what he stands for. You cannot call this Marine a disgrace, for standing up for his beliefs and convictions. "This explains why he is not in the corp" (by the way if you are going to refer to the "corp" please use capitol letters and spell it right), the way I read the article his injuries sustained while serving explain why he is not in the Corps. Not likely as "in contrast" as your nephew as you might think. You nephew is a hero. Your nephew gave his life after swearing an oath to support and defend (protect) the very rights this Marine is exercising. That is a hero to me as well.

Please bear in mind this one thing, and it's been said here on INGO many times. I do not have to like what you are saying, I do not have to agree with it, but I too have sworn an oath to protect you right to say whatever you want. Very often I hear people saying things that makes my blood boil, but it's their right and I wouldn't have it any other way.

As an American, I support his right.

As a Marine, I think he is an attention seeking asshat.

+1. I don't know this cat, but you could be totally on the money here. The fact that you separated your two statements means you get it.

 

[88GT]

Forgot to add democratically elected my a majority not once but twice.

No, he was not.

Indeed, whether one likes the man, his politics, or not. He is our President.

Indeed what? I suppose if Satan himself were to occupy the White House we'd have to, what? Respect him because he won the lottery of politics? I'll pass. No respect for the office-holder when he can't respect the office.

 

[LEaSH]

Indeed, whether one likes the man, his politics, or not. He is our President.

That doesn't really matter. Office of the President may have meant something to me when I was in the 8th grade - maybe.

Until it is officially a crime to disrespect the office of anyone, I'll always approve of free speech.

 

[indydrew1]

No, he was not.


Indeed what? I suppose if Satan himself were to occupy the White House we'd have to, what? Respect him because he won the lottery of politics? I'll pass. No respect for the office-holder when he can't respect the office.

United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2008
Obama 69,498,516 52.9%
Mcain 59,948,323 45.7%

​

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_20122012

Obama 65,915,796 51.1%
Romney 60,933,500 47.2%

The two black panthers in Philly got Obama 10,000,000 extra votes in 2008, and 5,000,000 more in 2012. Very good guys to have on your team.

 

[88GT]

United States presidential election, 2008 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2008
Obama 69,498,516 52.9%
Mcain

59,948,323 45.7%​

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_20122012

Obama 65,915,796 51.1%
Romney

60,933,500 47.2%​

The two black panthers in Philly got Obama 10,000,000 extra votes in 2008, and 5,000,000 more in 2012. Very good guys to have on your team.

Two words for you: ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

 

[indydrew1]

Two words for you: ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

I'm not really with ya there either. Obama won the majority of the popular vote, and electoral college in both elections. You of course know this; so I'm left wondering what I'm missing.

 

[Jerchap2]

There is no distress. The federal government shut down about 15 times between 1976 and 1995, and the sky did not fall. Active duty military are receiving pay, and "essential services" (about 40% of the federal gov't) are still on the job. It is a political tactic, with little real consequence.

 

[88GT]

I'm not really with ya there either. Obama won the majority of the popular vote, and electoral college in both elections. You of course know this; so I'm left wondering what I'm missing.

He was not elected by the popular vote and the EC is not a democratic process. Ergo, he was not democratically elected. Your problem is in assuming my statement was based on the validity of his win. You're new. I don't argue like most peeps.

There is no distress. The federal government shut down about 15 times between 1976 and 1995, and the sky did not fall. Active duty military are receiving pay, and "essential services" (about 40% of the federal gov't) are still on the job. It is a political tactic, with little real consequence.

And why do you assume that the "distress" is as specific and immediate as the shut down?

 

[mdmayo]

He was not elected by the popular vote and the EC is not a democratic process. Ergo, he was not democratically elected. Your problem is in assuming my statement was based on the validity of his win.

How do you arrive at this conclusion? I too think the Electoral College is antiquated and needs to go away. However; the reality is that he did, indisputably, win both it and the popular vote. More than we can say of his predecessor.

 

[indydrew1]

He was not elected by the popular vote and the EC is not a democratic process. Ergo, he was not democratically elected. Your problem is in assuming my statement was based on the validity of his win. You're new. I don't argue like most peeps.


And why do you assume that the "distress" is as specific and immediate as the shut down?

This is not an argument; it is fact and your statement is not based in it.

Obama won the popular vote in both presidential elections. This is fact, it is not opinion, it is not conjecture. It was certified in fact by election officials of both parties in 50 states. Twice. It is not up for debate. You clearly don't like it, but it does not change things. It is fact. If you are now claiming that his win is invalidated because the electoral collage is not democratic? Well lets just throw out all those other things in the constitution that we don't like. And I guess we haven't had a democratically elected president ever. Why do we vote???


Throw out the constitution, 88GT doesn't' like who is in the White House. So the 10,000,000 more Americans that voted for one guy are out!!!!!!!!!!

 

[indydrew1]

Ohhh and while we are at it since we do everything by popular vote in the United States of 88GT here is what our government would like.


President Obama; he won the popular vote.
Democrat controlled Senate; more democrat popular votes
Democrat controlled House since the DEMS got more congressional popular votes then republicans.


We have a 100% controlled democrat House, Senate and White House In the United States of 88GT........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...publicans-yet-boehner-says-hes-got-a-mandate/

 

[Sylvain]

What's a "former" Marine???

 

[88GT]

How do you arrive at this conclusion? I too think the Electoral College is antiquated and needs to go away. However; the reality is that he did, indisputably, win both it and the popular vote. More than we can say of his predecessor.

First, I don't think the EC is antiquated. Nor do I think it needs to "go away." And I didn't deny that he won both the popular vote and the EC. Second, see below.

This is not an argument; it is fact and your statement is not based in it.

I beg your pardon. I challenge you to find one part of my argument that isn't completely factual.

Obama won the popular vote in both presidential elections. This is fact, it is not opinion, it is not conjecture. It was certified in fact by election officials of both parties in 50 states. Twice. It is not up for debate. You clearly don't like it, but it does not change things. It is fact.

You both are missing the way-too-obvious point.

He isn't elected because he wins the popular vote. And the EC is not a democratic process. So he was not democratically elected. That's not conjecture. That's not opinion. That's fact.

You're both so stuck on proving me wrong that you can't understand I'm not disputing Obama's win. But where you both fail is your premise that win = democratic. No such correlation, folks.

 

[88GT]

Ohhh and while we are at it since we do everything by popular vote in the United States of 88GT here is what our government would like.


President Obama; he won the popular vote.
Democrat controlled Senate; more democrat popular votes
Democrat controlled House since the DEMS got more congressional popular votes then republicans.


We have a 100% controlled democrat House, Senate and White House In the United States of 88GT........

House Democrats got more votes than House Republicans. Yet Boehner says he?s got a mandate?

Now you're just talking outta your ass. You should have quit when you were less behind.