So much for freedom of speech and expression.

[HoughMade]

...How much easier it is for an American to obey these scriptures than a 1st century Jew from Ephesus recently converted to Christ. Yet we also hold a say in our government, which, while complicating this paradigm, also leaves us with responsibility.

Agreed. We may exercise our rights to urge the government in the direction we believe is the better course. We can and should be involved in the political/lawmaking process. However, the #1 rule in the political subforum shouldn't be necessary to even mention to us.

 

[T.Lex]

So, to re-cast the OP (breaking out my Harleyrider interpreter, with cognitive dissonance deconverter) allow me....

While, strictly speaking, the 1A applies to the government, it certainly does reflect a philosophy that accepts not all speech will be welcome. The higher principle being acceptance that alternative viewpoints, while distasteful, are equally deserving of space in the marketplace of ideas.

To mute such distasteful opinions violates the spirit of the 1A, and is perhaps even a violation of natural law, as the words themselves were unlikely to induce widespread violence. (Whether they may constitute fighting words between individuals is a separate issue.)

Perhaps worse, the actions of the employer violate the golden rule of marketing: the station's name was spelled correctly (presumably) in every report.

So let us all take heart. Our brave brother in arms, gregr, was echoing that which we should all hear - acceptance of disagreement is God's will (particularly when we agree with the opinion articulate; not so much if we don't).

Or something like that.

 

[Woobie]

[video=youtube;OnxkfLe4G74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74[/video]

Reposted because Rush

 

[chocktaw2]

I need some new targets for the range. Somebody hook me up.

 

[Woobie]

So, to re-cast the OP (breaking out my Harleyrider interpreter, with cognitive dissonance deconverter) allow me....

While, strictly speaking, the 1A applies to the government, it certainly does reflect a philosophy that accepts not all speech will be welcome. The higher principle being acceptance that alternative viewpoints, while distasteful, are equally deserving of space in the marketplace of ideas.

To mute such distasteful opinions violates the spirit of the 1A, and is perhaps even a violation of natural law, as the words themselves were unlikely to induce widespread violence. (Whether they may constitute fighting words between individuals is a separate issue.)

Perhaps worse, the actions of the employer violate the golden rule of marketing: the station's name was spelled correctly (presumably) in every report.

So let us all take heart. Our brave brother in arms, gregr, was echoing that which we should all hear - acceptance of disagreement is God's will (particularly when we agree with the opinion articulate; not so much if we don't).

Or something like that.

First of all, well done.

Second of all, you now have me wondering if Harleyrider was an ATM shill.

 

[hoosierdaddy1976]

For all you free will arguers. It gets there eventually
[video=youtube_share;8IxClGl3mtI]http://youtu.be/8IxClGl3mtI[/video]

 

[JettaKnight]

I need some new targets for the range. Somebody hook me up.

Rush CDs work well for this.






Yup, I said it.

 

[chocktaw2]

Rush CDs work well for this.






Yup, I said it.

Now it's the music!

 

[Woobie]

Rush CDs work well for this.






Yup, I said it.

I'm gonna go check for your name in the shooter thread.

 

[jamil]

Just so the nonbelievers don't feel left out there is also a philosophical/scientific debate about free will among atheists/agnostics.

 

[jamil]

About Rush. It all kinda sounds the same. If you like it, you peobably like it all. If you don't, then not. I haven't heard it though since getting rid of my 8-track. So thanks for posting it.

 

[WebSnyper]

Damn, I got here too late. This thread has been Denny'd about 10 times over (correctly I might add ).

I usuallt stay out of the Political subforum, so I rarely get to see this kind of action.

For the OP, I'll just leave this here for ya... http://www.cbsnews.com/news/guns-ammo-magazine-writer-fired-over-gun-control-article/

 

[Spear Dane]

Who is this 'Denny' and what is he (in)famous for?

 

[JettaKnight]

Damn, I got here too late. This thread has been Denny'd about 10 times over (correctly I might add ).

I usuallt stay out of the Political subforum, so I rarely get to see this kind of action.

For the OP, I'll just leave this here for ya... Guns & Ammo magazine writer fired over gun control article - CBS News

How did I forget about Mr. Metcalf? This forum was boiling up the tar and plucking the feathers...

 

[JettaKnight]

Who is this 'Denny' and what is he (in)famous for?

He used to have a restaurant on Lima Rd. here in Fort Wayne. He was famous for his Grand Slam breakfasts.

 

[Woobie]

Rush CDs work well for this.






Yup, I said it.

I have to revisit this.


"Only a schnitzel-eating driver of small German cars would denigrate a great All-American band like Rush." -Teddy Roosevelt


And in the spirit of this thread, you frankly have no right to say this.

 

[Libertarian01]

While I agree that the First Amendment applies to the idea that government may not limit free speech, I also believe that many ideological values should transfer throughout mediums. As an example, while it may be true that a "presumption of innocence" is directed solely at the courts, it is certainly a good idea that should apply to friends, children, and employees. Is it mandated? No. But to fire someone based solely upon accusation may be legal, it certainly isn't honorable.

I would also put forth the argument that the media is more than just a business. It is a platform and tool that is used to inform and enlighten the public (at least in Utopia.) It is different from other forms of business by its very nature, at least regarding the First Amendment. If we cannot bring forth ideas, concepts, and thoughts that are controversial in the media, up until recently there were no other platforms. As such, I do believe the media of all places should try to stick to a very liberal interpretation of First Amendment values, all while conceding they have no legal reason to do so. My point here would be that just because an action is legal doesn't make it just.

Finally, fired for calling someone, in a PRIVATE message, a F*** is hardly a reason for termination. It isn't as though she said it in public. This is extremely unfair to an employee by holding them accountable for a private communication that was personal in nature and did not reflect poorly upon the employer until the other turd made it public. Bad form...

Oh, and to Actaeon277, the Constitution LIMITS me, as an individual, to being age 30 to run for Senate. Minor, I know, but it is a limit on my power to seek office, gain power, and affect a positive change on my fellow Americans.


Regards,

Doug

 

[JettaKnight]

I have to revisit this.


"Only a schnitzel-eating driver of small German cars would denigrate a great All-American band like Rush." -Teddy Roosevelt


And in the spirit of this thread, you frankly have no right to say this.

That description fits me to a T.


AND I HAVE EVERY RIGHT AND I DEMAND YOU BACK ME UP WHEN I GET FIRED BY BOSS WITH THE 2112 TATOO!!!!

 

[Woobie]

That description fits me to a T.


AND I HAVE EVERY RIGHT AND I DEMAND YOU BACK ME UP WHEN I GET FIRED BY BOSS WITH THE 2112 TATOO!!!!

Man, I just learned what "13" means.

 

[jamil]

I have to revisit this.


"Only a schnitzel-eating driver of small German cars would denigrate a great All-American band like Rush." -Teddy Roosevelt


And in the spirit of this thread, you frankly have no right to say this.

I'd leave Frank out of it. I hear he curbstomps.