The insane social justice thread

[printcraft]

https://twitter.com/NabeelAzeezDXB/status/882500142921900032

 

[HoughMade]

CNN's new statement here:

Doesn't seem to jive with this paragraph here:

That CNN expended ANY energy or resources tracking down who made that mystifies me. Talk about sensitive. If the President tasked some friends to track down someone who tweeted something humorously negative about him, what would the reaction be?

 

[Kutnupe14]

That CNN expended ANY energy or resources tracking down who made that mystifies me. Talk about sensitive. If the President tasked some friends to track down someone who tweeted something humorously negative about him, what would the reaction be?

Given the significant disparity in affiliations, between the President (who I assume you don't see as working for Trump Inc) and CNN, I think the comparison is apples to oranges.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

The meme game is hot today.

Also, I love my new sig.

 

[HoughMade]

Given the significant disparity in affiliations, between the President (who I assume you don't see as working for Trump Inc) and CNN, I think the comparison is apples to oranges.

Um...no. Both would be rightly accused of intimidating a political opponent into silence.

How is this not intimidation on CNN's part in retribution for an opinion they don't like?

Petty. The actions of a bully organization.

It is the comparison between two rotten apples, except one is real and the other hypothetical.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Um...no. Both would be rightly accused of intimidating a political opponent into silence.

How is this not intimidation on CNN's part in retribution for an opinion they don't like?

Petty. The actions of a bully organization.

CNN doesn't work for you, they can use CNN resources to do whatever they want. If the president used govt resources to track you down because he didn't like what you said, and then attempted to intimidate you, you'd have a pretty solid case at impeachment.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

CNN doesn't work for you, they can use CNN resources to do whatever they want. If the president used govt resources to track you down because he didn't like what you said, and then attempted to intimidate you, you'd have a pretty solid case at impeachment.

GA § 16-8-16 Theft by extortion. GA crime if they threatened to "Disseminate any information tending to subject any person to hatred, contempt, or ridicule...."

Or possibly federal felony violation of 18 U.S. Code § 241 in relation to the 1st Amendment

 

[printcraft]

CNN doesn't work for you, they can use CNN resources to do whatever they want. If the president used govt resources to track you down because he didn't like what you said, and then attempted to intimidate you, you'd have a pretty solid case at impeachment.

Next thing you will tell us is that President Trump using a taxpayer funded Twitter account against CNN is grounds for impeachment.

 

[red_zr24x4]

they can use CNN resources to do whatever they want. and then attempted to intimidate you, you'd have a pretty solid case .

This seem to answer the question

 

[HoughMade]

CNN doesn't work for you, they can use CNN resources to do whatever they want. If the president used govt resources to track you down because he didn't like what you said, and then attempted to intimidate you, you'd have a pretty solid case at impeachment.

I crafted my hypothetical to not use government resources. Go back and look.

Are you saying that CNN's intimidation is a good thing for a news organization to be engaged in, or simply acceptable and because you don't like Trump, you're OK with them intimidating their "enemies" into silence.

Playground bullies are private actors too and we generally don't endorse their behavior, but I guess if the weak kid being picked on annoys you, well....

 

[Kutnupe14]

GA § 16-8-16 Theft by extortion. GA crime if they threatened to "Disseminate any information tending to subject any person to hatred, contempt, or ridicule...."

Or possibly federal felony violation of 18 U.S. Code § 241 in relation to the 1st Amendment

Yeah, that would go nowhere. CNN has already covered it's bases. They used their resources to track down the guy, which is (as far as I know) completely legal. Just because he "felt" intimidated, due to possibility of being outed by CNN, doesn't make it so. Conversely, expenditure of govt resources for the same reasons (being outside of the national interests), runs afoul of a few things.

 

[jamil]

Given the significant disparity in affiliations, between the President (who I assume you don't see as working for Trump Inc) and CNN, I think the comparison is apples to oranges.

Huh. It seems you may be biased.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I crafted my hypothetical to not use government resources. Go back and look.

Are you saying that CNN's intimidation is a good thing for a news organization to be engaged in, or simply acceptable and because you don't like Trump, you're OK with them intimidating their "enemies" into silence.

Playground bullies are private actors too and we generally don't endorse their behavior, but I guess if the weak kid being picked on annoys you, well....

I actually noticed that you used "friends," rather than connect Trump to the organization he is affiliated with. I don't think CNN's actions are good or acceptable because of my opinion of Trump. I'm saying, that as a private entity, that's their right (assuming they acted in accordance with the law). We can't flip flop on our belief of protections granted to private institutions simply because we don't like the message.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Huh. It seems you may be biased.

Lucky for me "may be" isn't the same as "are." I just see a difference in the things I will tolerate from private entities, and what I will tolerate from govt.

https://thinkprogress.org/app-lets-...control-advocates-home-addresses-59edbe5bc5d2

Acceptable or no?

 

[HoughMade]

I actually noticed that you used "friends," rather than connect Trump to the organization he is affiliated with. I don't think CNN's actions are good or acceptable because of my opinion of Trump. I'm saying, that as a private entity, that's their right (assuming they acted in accordance with the law). We can't flip flop on our belief of protections granted to private institutions simply because we don't like the message.

I never brought up going after CNN with the law. My question is simple. Is it a good thing that a news organization has used its power to intimidate a comparatively powerless person?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

If BuzzFeed is correct, it appears CNN's Andrew Kaczynski outed the wrong guy - twitchy.com

 

[Kutnupe14]

I never brought up going after CNN with the law. My question is simple. Is it a good thing that a news organization has used its power to intimidate a comparatively powerless person?

I answered that, I said no. But my opinion of their action has no bearing on whatever CNN thinks is in their best interests. As long as they are on the right side of the law, they can have at it.

 

[Kutnupe14]

If BuzzFeed is correct, it appears CNN's Andrew Kaczynski outed the wrong guy - twitchy.com

Now my head is starting to hurt. Either CNN is lying, Buzzfeed wants to get in on the clickbait action, or the guy CNN outed is lying. More than likely Buzzfeed is looking for the clicks. I can't see "Han" copping to creating something that someone created and taking all the grief that goes along with it.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Also § 135.60 of the New York criminal code "coercion"

New York Consolidated Laws, Penal Law - PEN § 135.60 | FindLaw

Sargon video this afternoon covering the meme, blackmail, response, etc. Copied link at the time for this specific situation, skipping the other political stuff.

https://youtu.be/J5AKjNjFEQA?t=758

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Protests... stupid. Going to ruin any momentum that the CNN piece created.