Charlottesville Thread by Popular Demand.....

[OakRiver]

Lets revist this discussion then. I want more proof first.

You need no more proof than the FBI statistics which I have provided.

During Obama's tenure anti-white hate crimes increased over 27%. Was Obama responsible for that increase during his tenure as you are claiming that Trump is responsible for the increase in hate crimes during his tenure?Either your argument is correct and Obama's administration was responsible for a rise in racist attacks, or your argument is incorrect and Trump is not responsible for the increase you claim in racist attacks. Which is it, are you right or not?

 

[ghitch75]

now stop it..... i blew water out my nose!!!.....

 

[OakRiver]

Really, says you? LOL

Says you, we're asking you to defend or renounce your argument. Please choose.

 

[jamil]

I think it's a distinct possibility the timing seems to be about right.

You know better, I guess you were there too?

I'm not the one making claims about the intent of a rich old fart before he died 100 years ago.

 

[Dddrees]

Says you, we're asking you to defend or renounce your argument. Please choose.

Or?

 

[2A_Tom]

The nice thing is that the pol disc thread is now dead.

 

[ATM]

Really, says you? LOL

Yeah. You got called and you're attempting to dance away from it like you don't have crap on your shoes.

It's your own crap, nobody else is going to claim it or let you off the hook.

 

[IndyDave1776]

If your white like me i might agree.

If I am black I might see that a lot differently.

The amount of veneration one group or other may give to any person or persons isn't really relevant. The point is that without Washington, there would be no United States. King can make no such claim.

 

[Dddrees]

The amount of veneration one group or other may give to any person or persons isn't really relevant. The point is that without Washington, there would be no United States. King can make no such claim.

You know since I'm not black I may just not do this argument as much justice as it derserves.

However I'll give it a shot.

Without Dr King I very much doubt there would have been a Civils Rights Act of 1964. Kinda the equivalent of having.the right to equality. Not much different than the whole concept of Freedom and the United States. some may say by this point the Civil War had long ended by then, but then again if nothing else the south hadn't much acted like that.

As whites we kind of have numerous heroes we're able to lookup to and commemorate. Until Dr King name one Black that was celebrated nationally. Now for those that already have that kind of hard to understand those that don't.

Of course any of these points could be wrong and more than likely I doubt I got everything. But then again I am a white male so I did the best I could off the top of my head.

 

[OakRiver]

Or?

Or lose whatever credibility you have.

​During Obama's tenure anti-white hate crimes increased over 27%. Was Obama responsible for that increase during his tenure as you are claiming that Trump is responsible for the increase in hate crimes during his tenure?Either your argument is correct and Obama's administration was responsible for a rise in racist attacks, or your argument is incorrect and Trump is not responsible for the increase you claim in racist attacks. Which is it, are you right or not?

 

[Chewie]

i was there, but I don't remember seeing you.

Well i guess that makes you age to be in excess of oh, say, 110 or you are having some really vivid fantasies!

 

[Dddrees]

​During Obama's tenure anti-white hate crimes increased over 27%. Was Obama responsible for that increase during his tenure as you are claiming that Trump is responsible for the increase in hate crimes during his tenure?Either your argument is correct and Obama's administration was responsible for a rise in racist attacks, or your argument is incorrect and Trump is not responsible for the increase you claim in racist attacks. Which is it, are you right or not?

I think if you look I said I was willing to revisit once we had more data from Trumps Presidency.

 

[Dddrees]

Well i guess that makes you age to be in excess of oh, say, 110 or you are having some really vivid fantasies!

Or, I'm Shirley McClain.

 

[IndyDave1776]

You know since I'm not black I may just not do this argument as much justice as it derserves.

However I'll give it a shot.

Without Dr King I very much doubt there would have been a Civils Rights Act of 1964. Kinda the equivalent of having.the right to equality. Not much different than the whole concept of Freedom and the United States. some may say by this point the Civil War had long ended by then, but then again if nothing else the south hadn't much acted like that.

As whites we kind of have numerous heroes we're able to lookup to and commemorate. Until Dr King name one Black that was celebrated nationally. Now for those that already have that kind of hard to understand those that don't.

Of course any of these points could be wrong and more than likely I doubt I got everything. But then again I am a white male so I did the best I could off the top of my head.

Why does it have to be a zero-sum game? Why not simply add a federal holiday and call it good?

 

[ATM]

I think if you look I said I was willing to revisit once we had more data from Trumps Presidency.

STOP DANCING. YOU HAVE CRAP ON YOUR SHOES.

Take them off, please, you are just making it worse. Your numbers are going down, down, down.

 

[jamil]

No, you must now either denounce Obama or stand humiliated.

You didn't really leave yourself any other options.

Oh. Dddrees is not playing by any rules of logic or rationality. You say potato, he says it's Trump's fault.

 

[ghitch75]

Oh. Dddrees is not playing by any rules of logic or rationality. You say potato, he says it's Trump's fault.

or Bush..

 

[ATM]

Oh. Dddrees is not playing by any rules of logic or rationality. You say potato, he says it's Trump's fault.

That's OK, I enjoy a nice game of pigeon chess.

 

[Dddrees]

Why does it have to be a zero-sum game? Why not simply add a federal holiday and call it good?

Why did Washington have to have a holiday and a memorial? Lincoln? Then you have those that have memorials such as Roosevelt, Jefferson.

Why is it such a problem anyway?

 

[Dddrees]

Oh. Dddrees is not playing by any rules of logic or rationality. You say potato, he says it's Trump's fault.

Finally

Your right it is Trump's fault.