Donald J. Trump. Messiah? Poopiehead? Discuss...

[indiucky]

Van plows into crowd in Barcelona.... will Trump tweet?

I know not....But I know kut and Indiucky will lament the loss of any Spanish women......

 

[churchmouse]

 

[Kutnupe14]

And I think I've been trying.

Dddrees, I'll be honest, you do lay it on thick sometimes. Some here are aways going to give grief regardless, but some will sometimes listen. It's the latter that you should seek to engage, and just "LOL" the others.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I know not....But I know kut and Indiucky will lament the loss of any Spanish women......

Certainly.

 

[indiucky]

Certainly.

Live link....Looks like mostly tourists (British) in that area....Two armed men left vehicle and went into restaurant but unconfirmed...

Watch Sky News Live

 

[Kutnupe14]

Live link....Looks like mostly tourists (British) in that area....Two armed men left vehicle and went into restaurant but unconfirmed...

Watch Sky News Live

Well, damn. The news say the police have called it a "terror attack." So Donnie is off the hook.

 

[Dddrees]

Dddrees, I'll be honest, you do lay it on thick sometimes. Some here are aways going to give grief regardless, but some will sometimes listen. It's the latter that you should seek to engage, and just "LOL" the others.

I'm very stubborn that way. I give very little if any ground.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

If you so dearly hold that document you say so dear and near to your heart do you wish to see it destroyed? Because if Trump had his choice I most certainly think he would. Thank G** we have the protections and divisions of power we do or he would have thrown it out 6 months ago. In the meantime he'll be doing just as much as he can to destroy whatever he can that serves himself and his needs.

Wrong. Justice Gorsuch is the proof. With Gorsuch, Trump put forward the most "originalist" nominee in decades. That to me is a strong defense of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. How does that serve himself or his needs? It certainly doesn't give him or the Executive Branch more power, money, or anything else.

So you don't recognize or agree that DJT might have just a few serious flaws? issues? Problems? warning signs? Etc?

As I pointed out, people like me voted for him in spite of his flaws because we so thoroughly reject Obama, his legacy, and the continuation down that wrong path that would have occurred with Hillary (or Bernie) as POTUS. I'm very happy with the steps Trump has taken to reverse course. There are many regulations that have been repealed and direction changed on the international stage which is concrete action that is FAR more important than any tweet or inarticulate statement to the news media.

Waters of the U.S. Rule - gone!
Assorted climate change B.S. - gone!
Trans-Pacific Partnership - gone!
NAFTA renegotiation - working on it
Tax Reform - working on it
ObamaCare - attempted, failed, still working on it. **** John McCain!
North Korea - being handled pretty well
Syria, ISIS, and A-Stan - being handled pretty well

 

[AmmoManAaron]

The snake is turning on itself.

NY Times questioning ACLU's stand on free speech: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/...ndment-trump-charlottesville.html?ref=opinion

That actually dovetails nicely with what I posted a few pages ago. The left is charging so hard now that they are attacking Constitutional rights, and those who defend them, even when the defender is a traditionally left-aligned group. I expect them to attack right-aligned groups like the NRA (Markos Moulitsas founder of the left-wing propaganda rag, Daily Kos: “NRA and American conservatives/Nazis are one and the same.”), but attacking the generally left-aligned ACLU seems new.

 

[Dddrees]

Wrong. Justice Gorsuch is the proof. With Gorsuch, Trump put forward the most "originalist" nominee in decades. That to me is a strong defense of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. How does that serve himself or his needs? It certainly doesn't give him or the Executive Branch more power, money, or anything else.



As I pointed out, people like me voted for him in spite of his flaws because we so thoroughly reject Obama, his legacy, and the continuation down that wrong path that would have occurred with Hillary (or Bernie) as POTUS. I'm very happy with the steps Trump has taken to reverse course. There are many regulations that have been repealed and direction changed on the international stage which is concrete action that is FAR more important than any tweet or inarticulate statement to the news media.

Waters of the U.S. Rule - gone!
Assorted climate change B.S. - gone!
Trans-Pacific Partnership - gone!
NAFTA renegotiation - working on it
Tax Reform - working on it
ObamaCare - attempted, failed, still working on it. **** John McCain!
North Korea - being handled pretty well
Syria, ISIS, and A-Stan - being handled pretty well

Well I just find Trump morally bankrupt with no possibility of redemption and I don't find the rollercoaster ride to either be enjoyable or beneficial in the long run. He may very well do some good but in my eyes I think it will be more harm than good. I would have much rather a more responsible person had been elected. Please don't respond with Hilary Clinton because that's not what I mean. The binary choice is getting to be an old arguement too. What I am talking about is what I would have rather hoped for and not about the choices we had in the end. One can dream and to me Trump is nothing but a nightmare on steroids.

 

[2A_Tom]

My daddy always said, "Wish in one hand and S*** in the other and see which one fills up first."

When you were a kid did you hope to get a real jet airplane for Christmas too.

D, you have to be realistic. It dosent matter if you are tired of the reality that there was no other choice in the matter. It was not a binary choice. Trump was the ONLY choice at the time of the election.

 

[Dddrees]

Yeah, and yet Trump is still a Poopiehead.

 

[2A_Tom]

You have got to be kidding. You say that we don't have an argument and keep reverting to the progressive play book.

Name calling is juvinile.

 

[bwframe]

Any shooters yet? Just checkin'...

 

[Kutnupe14]

Any shooters yet? Just checkin'...

For what?

 

[Dddrees]

You have got to be kidding. You say that we don't have an argument and keep reverting to the progressive play book.

Name calling is juvinile.

Fair enough

But this really isn't a progressive thing for me. It really is a dislike that I have for this man.

But fair enough and point made.

I'll try but I may need a reminder or two.

 

[ATM]

I'm very stubborn that way. I give very little if any ground.

You don't have any to give, you haven't really even made a claim to any ground for there to be a dispute.

You don't like Trump.

OK, you can rent that on any street corner, it's certainly not yours to stand on or defend.

 

[2A_Tom]

Now, You've said that you retired from the military. Is it possible that you never served under anyone that you had no respect for aside from the rank.

I only served 7 years. I know I did.

Is it too much to ask to just feign respect for the office.

 

[Dddrees]

Now, You've said that you retired from the military. Is it possible that you never served under anyone that you had no respect for aside from the rank.

I only served 7 years. I know I did.

Is it too much to ask to just feign respect for the office.

I served for a few and I was very fortunate I was able to get other positions during some of these times, I was also very fortunate that being an NCO I was able to teach or make some officers in my time see the light. I also served under some extremely lazy NCOs for which I took their job.

In the case I respect our country and the office much more than I respect this individual.

This isn't an discussion either one of us will win. I don't see that. We can and might discuss it but I know I won't agree that I need to select someone I have no reason to respect,

 

[Dddrees]

Now, You've said that you retired from the military. Is it possible that you never served under anyone that you had no respect for aside from the rank.

I only served 7 years. I know I did.

Is it too much to ask to just feign respect for the office.

And by the way because I have to go remind me to tell you of an incident where as an E-7 I tangled with an E-8 who failed to ensure a section under him failed to maintain their equipment for about 8 months,