Donald J. Trump. Messiah? Poopiehead? Discuss...

[miguel]

I recently tried to dial dial it back a bit but I won't ever stop asking the questions or sticking up for what I believe in. I just won't do it.

Neither will we.

 

[KLB]

Point taken.

Actually changing how I am or doing things difrently harder to do.

Good. I don't want to see you get banned. I want to see you fight your fight in the right way and thus stay around to fight it.

 

[ATM]

Trump is just another guy with aay too much power, same as the others, same as the next.

Arguing otherwise is just silly.

 

[Dddrees]

Good. I don't want to see you get banned. I want to see you fight your fight in the right way and thus stay around to fight it.

Thank you sir.


That sentiment there is the main reason you have such a great community here in the first place. Please whatever you do don't let anyone ever change that. No one, not even someone like me.

 

[two70]

You don't recognize that the press obsesses over Trump and invents negativity out of nothing? They reported on his ice cream portion, for crying out loud!

And just because CM pointed out that very nature of the #resistance, doesn't mean he doesn't recognize the flaws. It's as Indy Dave said, most people who voted for DJT knew about the flaws. I did. Yeah he's a very flawed president. I voted for him because all those flaws weigh on my decision as less important than the general direction of the pendulum. If the Democrats run another socialist progressive ideologue, I'll vote for that flawed individual again. That I'd vote for a guy with as many flaws as Trump is more an indicator of how much more horrible the alternative is.

So every time I read some new stupid thing Trump said, I think, yep. That's really stupid. I'm still not voting Democrat.

Yes, this is exactly right but perhaps doesn't go quite far enough. It is not just the obsession with tearing Trump down and the constant negativity, its also the juxtaposition of this constant nonsense with the previous 8 years where the same media was disinterested at best and actively burying negative stories at worst. This alone has been enough to open the eyes of several people I know who are not generally politically aware or engaged. Organizations like CNN and individuals of the same ilk as Dddrees do more to make Trump look appealing than Trump himself is capbale of, IMO.

One thing I do disagree with in your post is your choice to use "if" instead of "when" concerning the next Democrat president candidate. It is a foregone conclusion that the candidate will be a socialist, the only questions are what type(socialist or communist), what extent(open or hidden), and what variety(the old, senile one from NH, the younger communist one from NY, the incoherent minority female from CA, or the fake minority female from MA).

 

[2A_Tom]

I recently tried to dial it back a bit, but I won't ever stop asking the questions or sticking up for what I believe in. I just won't do it.

D, I appreciate that you have tried to dial it back and I have attempted to have a civil conversation with you. Hyperbole is still your forte and it does not make for good communication.

We do not mind someone asking questions, but there is a difference between asking questions and questioning everything and then discounting any answer or data given in response.

One problem is that you very seldom answer anyone else's questions and this mekes it dificult to take you seriously. I for one am trying to give you enough time to grow into someone that we can have a productive conversation with.

How well recieved would any of us be received on liberal sites and how long would it take them to ban us.

 

[Dddrees]

D, I appreciate that you have tried to dial it back and I have attempted to have a civil conversation with you. Hyperbole is still your forte and it does not make for good communication.

We do not mind someone asking questions, but there is a difference between asking questions and questioning everything and then discounting any answer or data given in response.

One problem is that you very seldom answer anyone else's questions and this mekes it dificult to take you seriously. I for one am trying to give you enough time to grow into someone that we can have a productive conversation with.

How well recieved would any of us be received on liberal sites and how long would it take them to ban us.

Sorry bad form. The questions are genuine the communication is poor. The method is provoking but that's who I am. Intentions are not always as they come across, but I can be a real A**. Apologies offered.

I doubt that you would last very long at all, but I have no desire to frequent those sites wherever they maybe.

 

[2A_Tom]

So don't be an ass. A lot of US are and many others can be. If you are not man enough to suppress it, Please, leave of your own accord.

If that seems harsh, it was meant to be.

Man up.

Edit: Sorry, left out a key word.

 

[miguel]

The snake is turning on itself.

NY Times questioning ACLU's stand on free speech: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/...ndment-trump-charlottesville.html?ref=opinion

 

[churchmouse]

Thank you sir.


That sentiment there is the main reason you have such a great community here in the first place. Please whatever you do don't let anyone ever change that. No one, not even someone like me.

Being alone is one thing. Making things up to stay out front is a totally different thing.

Please give us just one "Good" example of DJT trashing those two sacred documents and we can continue our discourse. I have yet to see any reasonable examples of this. And I am watching the circus unfold.

 

[miguel]

So don't be an ass. A lot of are and many others can be. If you are not man enough to suppress it, Please, leave of your own accord.

If that seems harsh, it was meant to be.

Man up.

Might be happier using this link than an INGO bookmark: https://crowdsondemand.com/political-services/

 

[Dddrees]

So don't be an ass. A lot of US are and many others can be. If you are not man enough to suppress it, Please, leave of your own accord.

If that seems harsh, it was meant to be.

Man up.

Edit: Sorry, left out a key word.

Thanks for the inclusion of the word US. Because this too is true in my opinion.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Van plows into crowd in Barcelona.... will Trump tweet?

 

[2A_Tom]

Look D, we either agree to be civil (I have taken pains since you proposed I not call you Dee Dee to be civil and converse) you need to try harder.

Be Avislike.

 

[foszoe]

Trump: Both sides are to blame!

Van plows into crowd in Barcelona.... will Trump tweet?

 

[printcraft]

Van plows into crowd in Barcelona.... will Trump tweet?

If he does or does not someone will still complain.

 

[Kutnupe14]

The snake is turning on itself.

NY Times questioning ACLU's stand on free speech: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/...ndment-trump-charlottesville.html?ref=opinion

"turning on itself?" How? Wasn't the ACLU the group that helped the racists get their permits for the UTR rally?

 

[2A_Tom]

Van plows into crowd in Barcelona.... will Trump tweet?

Damned if he does damned if he doesn't.

You'll (corporate) continue to demean him either way.

 

[Dddrees]

Look D, we either agree to be civil (I have taken pains since you proposed I not call you Dee Dee to be civil and converse) you need to try harder.

Be Avislike.

And I think I've been trying.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Damned if he does damned if he doesn't.

You'll (corporate) continue to demean him either way.

Ya know, if he actually waits "until the facts are known," like he did in Charlottesville (which was atypical for all other instances), then he'll avoid criticism from me. If he pops off before, then that's a problem.