Wonder Woman

[rhino]

I am now giddy with anticipation!

 

[rob63]

Saw it yesterday, great movie.

A friend linked to this article on Facebook, which I just found to be funny due to the irony. The movie has a powerful, strong woman character, and it apparently makes these women cry! I'm happy that the women in my life aren't like this.

Why I cried through the fight scenes in 'Wonder Woman' - LA Times

 

[SmileDocHill]

She also served 2 years in the IDF as a combat instructor. Second only to my wife :-) I have to say this lady is the entire package!

 

[churchmouse]

Saw it yesterday, great movie.

A friend linked to this article on Facebook, which I just found to be funny due to the irony. The movie has a powerful, strong woman character, and it apparently makes these women cry! I'm happy that the women in my life aren't like this.

Why I cried through the fight scenes in 'Wonder Woman' - LA Times

I am fearful of reading the article. Way to much snowflake sensitivity Bravo Sierra in the world already.

 

[actaeon277]

Saw it yesterday, great movie.

A friend linked to this article on Facebook, which I just found to be funny due to the irony. The movie has a powerful, strong woman character, and it apparently makes these women cry! I'm happy that the women in my life aren't like this.

Why I cried through the fight scenes in 'Wonder Woman' - LA Times

The way I read it was... they were crying because they finally got a woman superhero that can fight. And wasn't just window dressing for the men superheroes.

 

[Doug]

The way I read it was... they were crying because they finally got a woman superhero that can fight. And wasn't just window dressing for the men superheroes.

I think it was more than that. They got a woman who fights because it's the right thing to do. She doesn't fight because of a previous trauma that damaged her womanhood that she's trying to overcome.

 

[singlesix]

So Ripley from Aliens wasn't Bad A$$ enough for these crying women?

 

[AngryRooster]

So Ripley from Aliens wasn't Bad A$$ enough for these crying women?

The ones that are whining probably aren't old enough to know who Ripley is.



Overall I didn't find the article to be too bad. Hollyweird DOES have a tendency to churn out "damaged" female characters. I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't really have an opinion.

 

[jamil]

I get the feeling that a lot of "roaring" women types didn't care for Guardians of the Galaxy. You'd think they'd dig how powerful Gamora is. But powerful as she is, she is the main squeeze of someone they might consider a womanizing pig. Idunno. I loved that movie. So did the wife. We're going to go see Wonder Woman this weekend.

 

[AngryRooster]

I'm convinced the ones that whine the loudest over things like these wouldn't be satisfied with anything.

 

[rob63]

It doesn't really matter to me why they were crying... whether it was "because they finally got a woman superhero that can fight. And wasn't just window dressing for the men superheroes" or it was "because it's the right thing to do. She doesn't fight because of a previous trauma that damaged her womanhood that she's trying to overcome" or it because "Hollyweird DOES have a tendency to churn out "damaged" female characters."

All of those things can be true. The comedy is that they are CRYING and writing stories about it!

Wonder woman = kicking ass, not bragging about crying. Their reaction to the movie is pretty much the definition of irony. My wife, mother, grandmother, etc. would laugh at them too.

 

[jamil]

I never did get to the theaters to see Wonder Woman. So we finally saw it at home. After the rave reviews, I'm actually disappointed. They made her way too overpowered. It's what DC Comics does.

It was at least interesting throughout most of the movie. But I hated the ending. The problem with god superheroes is that it takes god villains to make it interesting. At least Marvel is getting it right in their movie series. Thor struggles. Even Hulk struggles. Their ultimate victories are believably in doubt. Now that they've established Wonder Woman's overpowered godness, DC comics has doomed itself into making her potential for defeat unbelievable.

With these kinds of movies, disbelief must be suspended anyway. But it still has to be workable. They've established a tough act to follow. And they suck for it. I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars, but that much, only because the acting was pretty outstanding from the main characters, and the superpower was workable. Until the ending.

 

[churchmouse]

I never did get to the theaters to see Wonder Woman. So we finally saw it at home. After the rave reviews, I'm actually disappointed. They made her way too overpowered. It's what DC Comics does.

It was at least interesting throughout most of the movie. But I hated the ending. The problem with god superheroes is that it takes god villains to make it interesting. At least Marvel is getting it right in their movie series. Thor struggles. Even Hulk struggles. Their ultimate victories are believably in doubt. Now that they've established Wonder Woman's overpowered godness, DC comics has doomed itself into making her potential for defeat unbelievable.

With these kinds of movies, disbelief must be suspended anyway. But it still has to be workable. They've established a tough act to follow. And they suck for it. I'd give it 3 out of 5 stars, but that much, only because the acting was pretty outstanding from the main characters, and the superpower was workable. Until the ending.

We had to purchase it on pay per view ($9.99) on Direct.
I agree it was pretty good right to the end. The last battle was a serious stretch.

 

[jamil]

We had to purchase it on pay per view ($9.99) on Direct.
I agree it was pretty good right to the end. The last battle was a serious stretch.

They either got lazy in their writing or they wanted Wonder Woman to be more overpowered than Superman.

 

[churchmouse]

They either got lazy in their writing or they wanted Wonder Woman to be more overpowered than Superman.

It would have been better if it was more of a standoff. She would have another bite of that apple with Hitler.

 

[Tanfodude]

She has to be OP'ed. Superman was nerfed in Man of Steel, and he might get stronger when he comes back.....as a villain. So the rumor says. If they follow the comic book/video game universe, then they'll have some serious fight against MOS. I just hope this is not the route WB will take. I'm still waiting for a MOS sequel.

I blind bought the movie and I love it. She's THE Wonder Woman. And I still prefer DC for it's serious tones vs Marvel's Teen Avengers.

 

[jamil]

Dude. Avengers is WAY better. DC ruined Stuperman.

 

[Tanfodude]

^I get what you're saying. I just prefer the darker/serious tones of DCEU. I can watch them over and over, the Marvel cinematic universe, it loses it's appeal for me after 2nd viewing, some not even worth watching the 2nd time around. There are exceptions, Iron Man 1, Edward Norton's The Incredible Hulk, Winter Soldier.

 

[jamil]

Spoiler alert warnings!

^I get what you're saying. I just prefer the darker/serious tones of DCEU. I can watch them over and over, the Marvel cinematic universe, it loses it's appeal for me after 2nd viewing, some not even worth watching the 2nd time around. There are exceptions, Iron Man 1, Edward Norton's The Incredible Hulk, Winter Soldier.

I like the darker stories too. Darker stories can be more complicated, and therefore more interesting. If you can unpack everything about the story in one viewing it's less interesting to watch again.

I was disappointed with MOS. I bought it, but I've only watched it twice. It's just doesn't have that much depth. DC has a difficult time with Superman anyway. I think Batman is my favorite comic character, and it's because he doesn't have super powers. He defeats his enemies with resources, wit, and honed abilities. He's not a god that can only be defeated by another god. I think this is one of the reasons I really liked the Christopher Nolan's interpretation of Batman. It had it's problems too, but Batmat got hurt. He had to work hard and persevere to win. No superpowers. Just skill and resources. And a lot to unpack. I've probably seen those three movies dozens of times.

Superman needs kryptonite to even allow for the potential to lose. And that gets kinda old. Batman could not have defeated Superman without Kryptonite. We all knew that was coming. And Wonder Woman, teaming up with Batfleck & Superman, should have just led with the trick she used to defeat Aries. With the powers they established in Wonder Woman's movie, she should have been able to defeat the foe in Batman v Superman by herself.

That's the problem with lazy or idealistic writing. You write in some super awesome over the top overpowered ability to defeat an enemy in the end, and we're all just left with the question, why didn't you just lead with that? I get it, she had to be pissed because she lost her boyfriend to discover her awesome god power. But still. It just creates plot holes the next time the superhero has to face down a powerful enemy. It first requires an overpowered enemy, which causes problems of workable scale in itself, or, secondly requires them to write in some script superglue to help us forget how powerful the superhero was the last time.

Marvel has done a much better job with their scripts than that, at least trying to avoid those pitfalls. But I'll agree that some of the Avenger universe lacks depth that I think darker plots would help solve.

 

[churchmouse]

Spoiler alert warnings!



I like the darker stories too. Darker stories can be more complicated, and therefore more interesting. If you can unpack everything about the story in one viewing it's less interesting to watch again.

I was disappointed with MOS. I bought it, but I've only watched it twice. It's just doesn't have that much depth. DC has a difficult time with Superman anyway. I think Batman is my favorite comic character, and it's because he doesn't have super powers. He defeats his enemies with resources, wit, and honed abilities. He's not a god that can only be defeated by another god. I think this is one of the reasons I really liked the Christopher Nolan's interpretation of Batman. It had it's problems too, but Batmat got hurt. He had to work hard and persevere to win. No superpowers. Just skill and resources. And a lot to unpack. I've probably seen those three movies dozens of times.

Superman needs kryptonite to even allow for the potential to lose. And that gets kinda old. Batman could not have defeated Superman without Kryptonite. We all knew that was coming. And Wonder Woman, teaming up with Batfleck & Superman, should have just led with the trick she used to defeat Aries. With the powers they established in Wonder Woman's movie, she should have been able to defeat the foe in Batman v Superman by herself.

That's the problem with lazy or idealistic writing. You write in some super awesome over the top overpowered ability to defeat an enemy in the end, and we're all just left with the question, why didn't you just lead with that? I get it, she had to be pissed because she lost her boyfriend to discover her awesome god power. But still. It just creates plot holes the next time the superhero has to face down a powerful enemy. It first requires an overpowered enemy, which causes problems of workable scale in itself, or, secondly requires them to write in some script superglue to help us forget how powerful the superhero was the last time.

Marvel has done a much better job with their scripts than that, at least trying to avoid those pitfalls. But I'll agree that some of the Avenger universe lacks depth that I think darker plots would help solve.

In all of this Iron Man was my guy from the 1st comic book appearance.
A mortal man albeit a genius. The suit morphed over time to what we saw in the avengers series. In all of that it was pretty well played out. D. Jr was the perfect Tony Stark. There were some real stretches in the plot's but hey, they had a flying camo'd aircraft carrier. That is a stretch in itself.