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  • chipbennett

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    Well, I can think of one, immediate comparison between guns and alcohol: with both, some people can't help but to employ psychological projection.

    A hundred million people possess, carry, and use firearms responsibly, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others. Possibly the same number of people somehow manage to own and consume alcohol, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others.

    Can't possess a firearm without giving in to the urge to use it unjustifiably? Don't get one.
    Can't consume alcohol without getting drunk? Don't consume it.

    But guess what? The vast majority of people know how to handle both possession of firearms and consumption of alcohol responsibly, both independently and concurrently.
     

    Tombs

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    Well, I can think of one, immediate comparison between guns and alcohol: with both, some people can't help but to employ psychological projection.

    A hundred million people possess, carry, and use firearms responsibly, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others. Possibly the same number of people somehow manage to own and consume alcohol, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others.

    Can't possess a firearm without giving in to the urge to use it unjustifiably? Don't get one.
    Can't consume alcohol without getting drunk? Don't consume it.

    But guess what? The vast majority of people know how to handle both possession of firearms and consumption of alcohol responsibly, both independently and concurrently.

    The difference is that guns aren't addictive, nor do they constitute an excuse in court of being mentally compromised.
     

    Twangbanger

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    Well, I can think of one, immediate comparison between guns and alcohol: with both, some people can't help but to employ psychological projection.

    A hundred million people possess, carry, and use firearms responsibly, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others. Possibly the same number of people somehow manage to own and consume alcohol, without causing intentional or unintentional harm to themselves or others.

    Can't possess a firearm without giving in to the urge to use it unjustifiably? Don't get one.
    Can't consume alcohol without getting drunk? Don't consume it.

    But guess what? The vast majority of people know how to handle both possession of firearms and consumption of alcohol responsibly, both independently and concurrently.

    You, sir, are a man of exceptional insight. You deserve a rep. :patriot: (But the puritans won't allow me to give you more).
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    Can't possess a firearm without giving in to the urge to use it unjustifiably? Don't get one.
    Can't consume alcohol without getting drunk? Don't consume it.

    Oh, yeah? Well, if I do that, then how can I tell others how to live?

    Isn't that the point of being better than you . . . Better. Than. You.
     

    BehindBlueI's

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    The difference is that guns aren't addictive, nor do they constitute an excuse in court of being mentally compromised.

    Neither does alcohol.

    IC 35-41-3-5 codifies that voluntary intoxication is not a defense, and it's part of jury instruction when it's an issue.
     

    russc2542

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    The difference is that guns aren't addictive, nor do they constitute an excuse in court of being mentally compromised.

    *cough*bullsh***cough*


    Have you been hiding under a rock the last 20 years? According to a fair number of people (usually with a D after their name) it does.
     

    chipbennett

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    Oh, yeah? Well, if I do that, then how can I tell others how to live?

    Isn't that the point of being better than you . . . Better. Than. You.

    And this is exactly where my conservatism bleeds into libertarianism. I believe in a "live and let live" philosophy, and define conservatism vs. liberalism (progressivism) not on ascribing to certain, litmus-test social views, but rather as where the balance lies between individual liberty and state control.

    And the "holier than thou" attitude taken by far too many social conservatives is, indeed, a detriment to individual liberty - particularly when that attitude is transformed into social policy through state control.
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    I was in Target this afternoon. 9 children burst into flames as I was watching people shop (gleefully) for alcohol on Sunday. It was the proximity of my gun that caused the burnings.
     

    Thor

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    If the proximity of alcohol to firearms is causing spontaneous combustion then being a child doesn't seem to universally correlate to causation. My kids are fine...everyday...so maybe the correlation is due to socialist indoctrination. In which case I say "Flame on snowflake, flame on."
     

    Kirk Freeman

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    If the proximity of alcohol to firearms is causing spontaneous combustion then being a child doesn't seem to universally correlate to causation. My kids are fine...everyday...so maybe the correlation is due to socialist indoctrination. In which case I say "Flame on snowflake, flame on."

    I am having 2 bottles of whiskey delivered at noon today. My office is across from a daycare . . .

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