Michael Cohen Offices Raided by the FBI

[DoggyDaddy]

He might be right, he might not. That's the great thing about the people the president surrounds himself with, they're liars. Even if they are telling the truth, how would we know?
However, the reports coming out seem to indicate that Cohen is fingering the president in relation to some Russia deal. The president says he is lying, BUT stated that their would be nothing wrong if he did. That, at least to me, makes it seem Cohen may be telling the truth, since the president did interject that caveat.
Mueller may have the answer.

Fingering the president for a deal that was in the works before he became president that never came to fruition? Trump has acknowledged that. I don't see how that implicates Trump at all. The only one that he (Cohen) seems to be fingering is himself for lying to Congress.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Fingering the president for a deal that was in the works before he became president that never came to fruition? Trump has acknowledged that. I don't see how that implicates Trump at all. The only one that he (Cohen) seems to be fingering is himself for lying to Congress.

Right now, nobody know what Cohen lied about (at least not what I've seen). The president seemed to imply that Cohen told a lie concerning a Trump/Russia business agreement, and commented that if he had done so, there was nothing illegal about it. If that's what's being said, and you're saying the president previously acknowledged doing so, then what is Cohen lying about?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Right now, nobody know what Cohen lied about (at least not what I've seen). The president seemed to imply that Cohen told a lie concerning a Trump/Russia business agreement, and commented that if he had done so, there was nothing illegal about it. If that's what's being said, and you're saying the president previously acknowledged doing so, then what is Cohen lying about?

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing he lied to Congress about the deal. The deal itself may have been on the up and up, but lying about it isn't. I honestly don't know all the details, but that's what I've gathered from what little I've heard today.

Kind of like testifying in a court of law. If a prosecutor asks me, "Where were you on the night of November 22nd?" And I say I was home by myself, when in reality I was somewhere else. I didn't do anything illegal at the place I really was, but I still committed perjury by not telling the truth.

 

[KittySlayer]

Cohen pleading guilty to lying to Congress..

Doesn't he realize that only congressmen are allowed to lie in Congress?

 

[Mikey1911]

A somewhat rhetorical question:

How much of a crime/sin is it, really, for one liar (Cohen) to lie to a big bunch of liars (Congress) about another liar (DJT) who was the alternative to still another liar (HRC)??

”Truth! What does that mean?”
—attributed to Pontius Pilate

”A thief who steals from a thief is pardoned for one hundred years.”
—Calvera in “The Magnificent Seven”

 

[KG1]

Jerome Corsi has come out and made the allegation that Muller’s team offered a plea deal if he agreed to say what they wanted him to say and that is something to the effect that he and Roger Stone had contact with Assange over the hacked Podesta emails.

Says he feels that they wanted to establish a conduit that could tie them and Assange with a possible connection to the Trump campaign over the dessemination of the emails.

He turned down the deal. Said he never met or had contact with Assange and refused to lie and would rather go to jail.

So I wouldn’t be so quick to poo-poo the notion that they offered a similar deal to Cohen to say what they want to hear and right now Cohen seems to be of the mindset to do or say anything to save his ass and get back at Trump in the meantime.

 

[actaeon277]

One wonders how a liar can ever believed about anything.

Juries don't respond well to: "well, sure, I lied about that, but I'm not lying about this."

Whether his current stories is lies or not, when you're telling the prosecutors what they want to hear, you're unlikely to be prosecuted for them.

As a kid, I was told that once you lied, people have a hard time believing you.
As a young adult, operating a nuke on the sub, it was further reinforced. Get caught lying and you might have well murdered someone.

 

[Trigger Time]

Jerome Corsi has come out and made the allegation that Muller’s team offered a plea deal if he agreed to say what they wanted him to say and that is something to the effect that he and Roger Stone had contact with Assange over the hacked Podesta emails.

Says he feels that they wanted to establish a conduit that could tie them and Assange with a possible connection to the Trump campaign over the dessemination of the emails.

He turned down the deal. Said he never met or had contact with Assange and refused to lie and would rather go to jail.

So I wouldn’t be so quick to poo-poo the notion that they offered a similar deal to Cohen to say what they want to hear and right now Cohen seems to be of the mindset to do or say anything to save his ass and get back at Trump in the meantime.

Of coarse. I dont believe for one second these people can be trusted any more than any other lawyer just because they have department of justice stamped on their business cards.
All a bunch of ****ing weasels in the judicial system.

Mueller has an axe to grind. Its beyond personal for him and his team. And they arent batting for America. I'll never believe any different.

And Cohen, HA! ****ing loser. What a bottom feeder. This guy will say or do anything to save his own bacon and was always willing to. Why do you think he made tapes of his own clients. Blackmail
Next thing you know Cohen will be saying he took in money from Russians and gave it to trump and the Russians are really the ones who paid off stormy Daniel's and shes really a KGB agent

 

[Denny347]

As a kid, I was told that once you lied, people have a hard time believing you.
As a young adult, operating a nuke on the sub, it was further reinforced. Get caught lying and you might have well murdered someone.

I get caught lying under oath in Court, lying on a report, or lying to internal affairs...I lose my job. I lose my job because it's a "Brady Violation" meaning that EVERY defense must be told I lied, rendering my testimony worthless, rendering my ability to be a police officer, worthless. I have NO patience for liars.

 

[bwframe]

Yet the FBI can lie with no abandon to suspects they interrogate? Looking to trap those suspects into a felony if they lie to the FBI?

 

[Trigger Time]

Yet the FBI can lie with no abandon to suspects they interrogate? Looking to trap those suspects into a felony if they lie to the FBI?

All police. They can lie to us all day long, entrap or whatecer, reverse offend In the coarse of investigating and it's all good.
I dont like double standards no matter the outcome. Wrong is wrong.
I honestly dont care If it catches criminals or not

 

[Kutnupe14]

Jerome Corsi has come out and made the allegation that Muller’s team offered a plea deal if he agreed to say what they wanted him to say and that is something to the effect that he and Roger Stone had contact with Assange over the hacked Podesta emails.

Says he feels that they wanted to establish a conduit that could tie them and Assange with a possible connection to the Trump campaign over the dessemination of the emails.

He turned down the deal. Said he never met or had contact with Assange and refused to lie and would rather go to jail.

So I wouldn’t be so quick to poo-poo the notion that they offered a similar deal to Cohen to say what they want to hear and right now Cohen seems to be of the mindset to do or say anything to save his ass and get back at Trump in the meantime.

If he rather go to jail, he just may get that wish.

If what Mueller has offered up is factual, it should be very concerning to all Americans, regardless of political identification. Courting the government of a hostile nation during an election and then lying about it, legal or not, should at the very least make one wonder about which interests that person has in mind. In the case of Trump, it would seem self came above country. I would expect after his presidency ends, there will be devices put in place so that the voting public does not have to "wonder" about motivations.

 

[Dead Duck]

[video=youtube;RTIcfYd7ehg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTIcfYd7ehg[/video]

 

[Trigger Time]

Kut you should replace trump with Clinton.

 

[KG1]

Kut you should replace trump with Clinton.

Yeah the Clintons would never do things like setting up global foundations so foreign interests could deposit money into them for their political influence.

 

[churchmouse]

Yeah the Clintons would never do things like setting up global foundations so foreign interests could deposit money into them for their political influence.

Nope. Never happen.

 

[ghuns]

Always find it horribly ironic that lying to Congress is crime.

 

[Expat]

Shouldn't this be handled like such crimes were handled during the Obama years? A referral of the charges to the DOJ, where it is ignored.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Shouldn't this be handled like such crimes were handled during the Obama years? A referral of the charges to the DOJ, where it is ignored.

Let's I agree with the above, as being factual. How long would you like such behavior to endure? If one previous administration had bad actors, does that mean that every subsequent administration should get a pass on its bad actors?

 

[KG1]

If he rather go to jail, he just may get that wish.

If what Mueller has offered up is factual, it should be very concerning to all Americans, regardless of political identification. Courting the government of a hostile nation during an election and then lying about it, legal or not, should at the very least make one wonder about which interests that person has in mind. In the case of Trump, it would seem self came above country. I would expect after his presidency ends, there will be devices put in place so that the voting public does not have to "wonder" about motivations.

I don’t believe Trump’s motivation to run for POTUS was to curry favor with the Russians for his own self interest.