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  • bcannon

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    I've served thank you, Its as simple as his finger was where it wasn't supposed to be. Its not like its a new rule thats been added...

    Thank you sir seriously. Wish the best for all involved. Bet it took more than a year for your knowledge bank of perfect situational awareness tho.

    In the words of phylodog, im done. Too many ropes and trees in this room.
     

    thompal

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    I'll ask again. What law suit are you referring to? You're the only person I've seen referring to a suit in both threads.

    A lawsuit will follow. It's only been a few days. She has a year to file one. She doesn't even know how much work she'll miss, or what permanent damage was done yet. Just because she hasn't filed a lawsuit from her hospital bed doesn't mean she won't.
     

    thompal

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    Dude really? ... Your scenario pretty sure yup your done shouldve just put it on the table, floor, chair or dropped it before walking towards him with or without a dog in between you two. Pretty sure a cop will not take it from you handing it to him probably tell u to drop it, i would and im not a cop.

    Dumbass really? The officer that shot his fellow officer might have thought to shoot the dog and in a breif second he changes his mind and maybe dog bit him anyway or door hit his hand or something else and the gun discharges unintentionally. You or I
    Were not there but negligence is a narrow brush and youre hitn him with the paint bucket. Im not sayn all cops are perfect and I am not one but have several in the family and no not all of them are my favorite people. Like ive said before somewhere, IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE PERFECT SITUATIONAL AWARENESS AND THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER, GET YOUR JON HANNY ON THE LINE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Pretty sure if you had the ability and didnt and kept b****ing i think you qualify for that position your giving that officer.

    This is a lame defense of situations such as this. You don't have to be a well-trained professional to know when someone hasn't followed well-known rules which everyone should follow, and should be taught from day one.

    You probably know not to feed rat poison to your kids, even though you aren't a trained practicing nutritionist.

    Rather than "if you think you can do better, then do it yourself" we should be asking "why did he do it wrong?" And if you, like the police chief, claim he did nothing wrong, then we must be left to assume that you think it's normal for cops to shoot each other.
     

    thompal

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    Paging CM, the armchair commandos/quarterbacks are devolving discussion into a ****show.

    You don't need to be an NFL quarterback to know that you shouldn't through the ball to a defensive lineman. But I guess none of us aren't allowed to criticize obvious mistakes of any player since we aren't in the NFL??

    The facts are: one cop shot a fellow officer. The police chief essentially said "oh well, these things happen if you have a firearm."

    Why are you ok with any of that?
     

    phylodog

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    I don't think anyone is ok with it.

    Some
    however, are capable of understanding that they don't know what actually happened because they weren't there and the specific details weren't caught on camera.

    Some are willing to concede that they aren't necessarily experts in fields they've never worked in.

    Some accept that sometimes bad things happen which weren't the result of negligence or incompetence, particularly when dealing with real life situations involving people and/or animals.

    Others like to sit back, profess to know it all and act as if they're superior in spite of the fact that they've never been in a situation anything like the situation at hand. Slinging **** is easy from the balcony seats.
     

    Dead Duck

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    I don't think anyone is ok with it.

    Some
    however, are capable of understanding that they don't know what actually happened because they weren't there and the specific details weren't caught on camera.

    Some are willing to concede that they aren't necessarily experts in fields they've never worked in.

    Some accept that sometimes bad things happen which weren't the result of negligence or incompetence, particularly when dealing with real life situations involving people and/or animals.

    Others like to sit back, profess to know it all and act as if they're superior in spite of the fact that they've never been in a situation anything like the situation at hand. Slinging **** is easy from the balcony seats.



    Oh come on!

    You know damn well that half of us were there. How else would you get such a detailed account of what actually happened. :n00b:
     

    phylodog

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    I'd love to know if the officer intentionally placed his finger on the trigger, unintentionally placed his finger on the trigger or if his hand made contact with the dog, dog crate or door which cause him to place his finger on the trigger. I'm not perfect so I can see how any of the three could have happened.

    I certainly hope that some of the folks ready to nail this officer to a cross and light him ablaze never face a jury of people so judgemental and arrogant that they won't consider for one second that that don't know everything.
     

    Sigblitz

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    I have seen the body cam footage from the other officer. I do believe I have a plausible explanation.

    The dog charged the front of the crate. The front of the crate was dropping down in the same way the ramp would drop down on the back of a trailer. His hand is in view when he tries to hold the front of the crate from dropping down. The gun is not in view.

    Try this exercise. I did. Unload and check your weapon. Hold it as if it's loaded with your finger on the side of the pistol. Go up to the dog crate and assume the front is suddenly dropping down and push it back with both hands.

    With gun in hand, your wrist naturally flags right and you push the crate with your palms. The webbing of your hand opens up when you twist your wrist to the right and this forces your finger further from your thumb, so the finger is lower but not on the trigger. Now keep your hand in this position, step back, and with your left hand smack your right palm as if the dog was charging the crate. It knocks the gun right into the trigger finger.

    I feel bad for the officer that was shot. I know it's taking a toll.
     
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    Gabriel

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    I don't think anyone is ok with it.

    Some
    however, are capable of understanding that they don't know what actually happened because they weren't there and the specific details weren't caught on camera.

    Some are willing to concede that they aren't necessarily experts in fields they've never worked in.

    Some accept that sometimes bad things happen which weren't the result of negligence or incompetence, particularly when dealing with real life situations involving people and/or animals.

    Others like to sit back, profess to know it all and act as if they're superior in spite of the fact that they've never been in a situation anything like the situation at hand. Slinging **** is easy from the balcony seats.


    Stop with the common sense. Everyone knows that everything anyone needs to know about shooting, tactics, and real world situations can be learned on a flat range from a bench (and Youtube).
     

    Denny347

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    I don't think anyone is ok with it.

    Some
    however, are capable of understanding that they don't know what actually happened because they weren't there and the specific details weren't caught on camera.

    Some are willing to concede that they aren't necessarily experts in fields they've never worked in.

    Some accept that sometimes bad things happen which weren't the result of negligence or incompetence, particularly when dealing with real life situations involving people and/or animals.

    Others like to sit back, profess to know it all and act as if they're superior in spite of the fact that they've never been in a situation anything like the situation at hand. Slinging **** is easy from the balcony seats.

    I have seen the body cam footage from the other officer. I do believe I have a plausible explanation.

    The dog charged the front of the crate. The front of the crate was dropping down in the same way the ramp would drop down on the back of a trailer. His hand is in view when he tries to hold the front of the crate from dropping down. The gun is not in view.

    Try this exercise. I did. Unload and check your weapon. Hold it as if it's loaded with your finger on the side of the pistol. Go up to the dog crate and assume the front is suddenly dropping down and push it back with both hands.

    With gun in hand, your wrist naturally flags right and you push the crate with your palms. The webbing of your hand opens up when you twist your wrist to the right and this forces your finger further from your thumb, so the finger is lower but not on the trigger. Now keep your hand in this position, step back, and with your left hand smack your right palm as if the dog was charging the crate. It knocks the gun right into the trigger finger.

    I feel bad for the officer that was shot. I know it's taking a toll.


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