Shut her down boys, shut her down.

[jamil]

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-republicans-try-outlaw-future-163155053.html
Democrats and Republicans try to outlaw future government shutdowns after Trump backs down over wall funding

“Shutting down the government should be as off-limits in budget negotiations as chemical warfare is in real warfare,” Senator Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn, said on Friday.
He was not alone in expressing those sentiments. Members of both parties said it was past time to enact legislation that would essentially mean the government would remain open at existing spending levels when an impasse such as the fight over the border wall was reached, rather than shuttering parts or all of the government. That is an outcome that virtually everyone agrees is costly, unnecessary and even embarrassing.

I don't think they should outlaw government shutdowns. I think instead they should do something more consistent with their fiscal role, which is, among other things, to pass an annual budget. This continuing resolution bull**** gives them a mechanism to essentially bypass the normal process and sneak in spending however they see fit. Well **** that.

I want a law that requires an annual budget be signed into law by a deadline every year. If one isn't signed by the deadline, a default budget automatically goes into effect, which is the previous year's budget reduced 10% across the board.

If they don't want the 10% budget reduction from the previous year's spending, I guess they better start agreeing to some things.

 

[BigRed]

I think the federal government should be shut down permanently and dissolved.

 

[actaeon277]

I don't think they should outlaw government shutdowns. I think instead they should do something more consistent with their fiscal role, which is, among other things, to pass an annual budget. This continuing resolution bull**** gives them a mechanism to essentially bypass the normal process and sneak in spending however they see fit. Well **** that.

I want a law that requires an annual budget be signed into law by a deadline every year. If one isn't signed by the deadline, a default budget automatically goes into effect, which is the previous year's budget reduced 10% across the board.

If they don't want the 10% budget reduction from the previous year's spending, I guess they better start agreeing to some things.

That sounds good.

Also, members of Congress, and the President, should be required to stay in DC, and not travel.
Maybe even put in something about required to meet for "X" amount of time, and make it a priority over all other business.

 

[JettaKnight]

For BigRed (who isn't as fun as a rotating Viking head that shoots blood out of the tip of the horns):

https://babylonbee.com/news/nations-libertarians-to-scream-at-sky-the-moment-the-government-reopens

 

[actaeon277]

I think the federal government should be shut down permanently and dissolved.

So, you don't want any "Provide for the common defense"?

 

[BigRed]

So, you don't want any "Provide for the common defense"?

Let the states cooperate and form alliances amongst themselves to provide for the common defense. The job is not nearly as vast once we stop trying to be the world's policemen.

 

[BigRed]

Suggested reading....

https://www.amazon.com/Rethinking-American-Union-Twenty-First-Century/dp/1589809572

 

[BigRed]

For BigRed (who isn't as fun as a rotating Viking head that shoots blood out of the tip of the horns):

https://babylonbee.com/news/nations-libertarians-to-scream-at-sky-the-moment-the-government-reopens

 

[actaeon277]

Let the states cooperate and form alliances amongst themselves to provide for the common defense. The job is not nearly as vast once we stop trying to be the world's policemen.

That's pretty much the definition of what the federal government is SUPPOSED to be.

 

[BugI02]

https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-republicans-try-outlaw-future-163155053.html
Democrats and Republicans try to outlaw future government shutdowns after Trump backs down over wall funding

“Shutting down the government should be as off-limits in budget negotiations as chemical warfare is in real warfare,” Senator Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn, said on Friday.
He was not alone in expressing those sentiments. Members of both parties said it was past time to enact legislation that would essentially mean the government would remain open at existing spending levels when an impasse such as the fight over the border wall was reached, rather than shuttering parts or all of the government. That is an outcome that virtually everyone agrees is costly, unnecessary and even embarrassing.

I think more than anything else, they recognize this as a somewhat effective means to force congress to act. It's telling that they're more interested in solving this 'problem' than the one that generated the shutdown in the first place - whether you hold that original problem to be that part of the government was vulbnerable to shutdown due to no enacted budget or that the president leveraged that weakness (or both)

I don't think they should outlaw government shutdowns. I think instead they should do something more consistent with their fiscal role, which is, among other things, to pass an annual budget. This continuing resolution bull**** gives them a mechanism to essentially bypass the normal process and sneak in spending however they see fit. Well **** that.

I want a law that requires an annual budget be signed into law by a deadline every year. If one isn't signed by the deadline, a default budget automatically goes into effect, which is the previous year's budget reduced 10% across the board.

If they don't want the 10% budget reduction from the previous year's spending, I guess they better start agreeing to some things.

If, in addition to the above, no one in office in the Legislative Branch or presidential appointment level and above in the Executive Branch get paid or have appropriations for personal staff or travel or any perks of office you could get me on board

 

[JettaKnight]

That's pretty much the definition of what the federal government is SUPPOSED to be.

Seems to be a confederation to me...

 

[cce1302]

For BigRed (who isn't as fun as a rotating Viking head that shoots blood out of the tip of the horns):

https://babylonbee.com/news/nations-libertarians-to-scream-at-sky-the-moment-the-government-reopens

The babylon bee is great, but I think they missed the mark trying to create a libertarian who somehow had hope that trump was going to make a libertarian decision!!

 

[HubertGummer]

I'd be fine with no federal elected official getting paid during a shutdown and no back pay.

Its not right that members of congress get a paid vacation while regular working folks are working without paychecks.

 

[BigRed]

I'd be fine with no federal elected official getting paid during a shutdown and no back pay.

Its not right that members of congress get a paid vacation while regular working folks are working without paychecks.

I would be fine with no federal officials.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I would be fine with no federal officials.

As long as we get souped-up muscle cars, chicks in leather, and most importantly "Thunderdome" I'm with you.

 

[JettaKnight]

As long as we get souped-up muscle cars, chicks in leather, and most importantly "Thunderdome" I'm with you.

Spin the wheel, Raggedy Man.

 

[KG1]

As long as we get souped-up muscle cars, chicks in leather, and most importantly "Thunderdome" I'm with you.

I like your platform.

 

[KLB]

I don't think they should outlaw government shutdowns. I think instead they should do something more consistent with their fiscal role, which is, among other things, to pass an annual budget. This continuing resolution bull**** gives them a mechanism to essentially bypass the normal process and sneak in spending however they see fit. Well **** that.

I want a law that requires an annual budget be signed into law by a deadline every year. If one isn't signed by the deadline, a default budget automatically goes into effect, which is the previous year's budget reduced 10% across the board.

If they don't want the 10% budget reduction from the previous year's spending, I guess they better start agreeing to some things.

But but but...Keeping spending at the same level is cutting spending. Haven't you been paying attention to the congress critters?

 

[BigRed]

Seems to be a confederation to me...

Indeed.

 

[JettaKnight]

Indeed.

So, would you find a country based on the Articles of Confederation to be to you liking, or is even that to far?